Hello,
I have moved to a place where the water is harder and the experience has been rather unpleasant. My scalp has a burn feeling to it after i go out of the shower and it smells like swimming pool, i also checked the values and it is on average medium to hard, where i was living before straight up soft. I would like to know if there are any accessories i could plug to the shower.
The philips one is the only shower filter i found that is from a brand that does not sound AI generated, it is NSF (no nsf number mentioned though, usually 177 is the desired one) and KDF, but most importantly, is available to purchase here in EU.
The holy grail here seems to be the showerstick, which is proved to make water objectively softer, but as far as i know is not possible to buy here in Europe and is also really pricey. I am also not even sure it would be compatible with the showers here.
I am aware that there are some ingredients that can remove the sediments from the hair, they also seem to potentially make the hair drier so to find a right balance appears to be difficult.
If there are any ingredients that could help me and ingredients I should avoid let me now.
The hardness averages 8,4 and 14 °dH where I live.
The ingredients list of my haircare products is easily available online (Davines momo shampoo and conditioner and the aveda dry remedy oil). I was also interested in the Aveda brilliant since it states to remove “buildup”. Of course buildup is an ambiguous term that could mean anything, it usually means build up of silicones, (which the conditioner does contain but I am not against silicones per se).So I would like to know if there is any ingredients in this shampoo that could help remove the sediments of hard water like calcium etc.. rather than just the silicones of styling products.
Let me know what life in a harder water area has taught you and if you were able to solve similar problems :)
Edit: my hair are not treated.
Thanks

Hard water and the problem of undisciplined hair, how have you dealt with it?


I don't know what I am doing wrong.  I live in a climate where the humidity is pretty constant around 50%. It only maybe goes up to 60% or down to 40%. My water is softened with a salt based water softener. The front of my hair curls in tight coils as well as the back of my neck along the hair line. I have course wiry red hairs around my crown, most of my hair is a dark blonde normal density and thickness, front is baby fine very very light blonde. I have a sulfate allergy(itch, inflammation and sores), also anything heavily scented like pureology shampoos on my scalp causes inflammation and sores, any metal touching my scalp from hair accessories causes sores as well. I never put anything but shampoo on my scalp. I tried olaplex 3 treatments twice already. I use Malibu C and Redken sulfate free shampoos, I love my pureology hydrate conditioner. I wash whenever my roots or hair needs it, no strict schedule. I sleep in a satin bonnet. I have tried so many products. I have Redken primer, cake mousse, sexy curly hair creme, Aveda be curly creme, dippy do gleece, curlsmith souffle, curl Smith hold me softly, curlsmith refresh spray, and matrix biolage (before ingredient change) leave in conditioner.

My main frustratioms - For some reason when I try to finger curl my curls go flat, my sides of my head hairs fall flat anyways, I like to have my hair parted (as best I can without  an actual part) to one side a bit and the side with less always is flat. The back of my crown is always flat the next day even if I hold it up and dry it. The coarse red hairs give me wet frizz and I have a hard time getting actual curl clumps in the back.

I don't know what I am doing wrong. Does anyone have any advice ?

Super frustrated with curls and sensitive scalp


A few months ago I decided that I was tired of my red, henna'd haircolour. I wanted to go lighter, and for the umpteenth time started researching whether, and how, one can dye or bleach over their henna. While in the past I would do a bit of research and give up, this time I decided to bite the bullet. During my research stage, I did not find a lot of particularly helpful information, and what little information I did find was wildly scattered; therefore, I'm putting together this post, and everything that I've learned, for anyone else who might want to attempt this on their hair.

***Disclaimer:*** *I am not a trained hairstylist or colourist. Please do your own research, especially if you've used henna of unknown or questionable origin. You MAY get chemical burns by bleaching over your henna, if your henna has metallic salts in it. Part of the reason I did this step-by-step experiment is to make sure that my hair WOULD NOT have an adverse reaction to bleach. Proceed with caution. Channel your inner nerd and experiment, like I did, to be sure.*

# Background Info

**My Hair and Henna.**

I have fine, thin, caucasian hair. Based on [this wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair) page, I think I have 1a hair - it is very soft, and gets oily very easily. I can easily curl it, but it loses curl pretty quickly unless I douse myself in hairspray. While I experimented with my hair as a teenager, in approximately 2013 I started to dye it with [this henna](https://www.amazon.ca/Light-Mountain-187130-Henna-Ounces/dp/B00028LURW/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=light+mountain+henna&qid=1603569615&sr=8-3) from Light Mountain, occasionally switching to one of the other shades from the same brand (e.g. [this, more violently red shade](https://www.amazon.ca/Light-Mountain-Natural-Conditioner-Bright/dp/B001ET7N38/ref=sr_1_11?dchild=1&keywords=light+mountain+henna&qid=1603569747&sr=8-11)). I was going through a hippie/natural product phase, and also did not have much money; this henna was a perfect solution. I purchased it for something like $10 at the local natural foods store every other month, mixed it up, and slathered on my head. In a pinch, I used [this other henna](https://www.amazon.ca/Surya-Brasil-Products-Henna-Burgundy/dp/B01FOKP5HS/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=surya+henna&qid=1603569850&sr=8-10) from Surya, which came in a tube and was much easier to apply when you're in a rush. But, it was more expensive and faded more quickly; therefore, I mostly stuck with Light Mountain. **These are the only brands of henna that I used on my hair.** And I continued to use them regularly to keep up my red hair up until several months ago (Spring of 2020).

**Concerns with Bleaching Henna.**

One of the myths surrounding bleaching over henna is that your hair will burn, or turn green; for this reason, many hairstylists will refuse to attempt to bleach your hair if you tell them that there's henna in it (or so I've heard). ***This concern is around for good reason:*** many poorer-quality hennas have metallic salts in them that will cause an exothermic reaction when put in contact with bleach. This may result in severe damage to the hair and chemical burns on your scalp.

Before proceeding, I therefore did some research on the henna that was already in my hair. Because I had only ever used two high-quality brands, this was easy. The Surya and Light Mountain websites assured me that there were no additives in their products, and I was inclined to believe them, and this was enough for me to justify the purchase of all of the supplies listed below. But did I believe them enough to jump right into bleaching my hair? Not at all; I wanted to be absolutely certain, and decided to experiment with bits of cut-off hair before committing to the process.

# Step 1: Purchasing the Supplies

On [SallyBeauty.ca](https://SallyBeauty.ca), I purchased the following:

*Hair Colour Removers:*

[L'Oreal Colour Zap Color Remover](https://www.sallybeauty.ca/on/demandware.store/Sites-SC-Site/en_CA/Product-ShowQuickView?pid=SBS-500495), $16.79

[Ion Hair Color Remover](https://www.sallybeauty.ca/hair/hair-color/hair-color-removers-and-correctors/hair-color-remover/SBS-405008.html), $8.69

*Bleach:*

[Wella Powder Lightener tub](https://www.sallybeauty.ca/hair/hair-color/lightener/powder-lightener-tub/SBS-800425.html), $30.89

*Developer:*

[Ion Sensitive Scalp 30 Volume Developer,](https://www.sallybeauty.ca/just-ask-sally/sally-favorites/sensitive-scalp-30-volume-creme-developer/SBS-305020.html) $8.39

[... and 10 Volume Developer](https://www.sallybeauty.ca/hair/hair-color/developer/sensitive-scalp-10-volume-creme-developer/ION86.html), $8.39

*Toners (I was optimistic):*

[Wella Color Charm Toner](https://www.sallybeauty.ca/hair/hair-color/toner/color-charm-permanent-liquid-toner/WELLA17.html), $9.69

[Brass Color Correcting Elixir](https://www.sallybeauty.ca/hair/hair-color/hair-color-removers-and-correctors/brass-color-correcting-elixir/SBS-550123.html), $9.99

*Dyes:*

[Wella Color Charm Demi Permanent Haircolor](https://www.sallybeauty.ca/hair/hair-color/demi-permanent-hair-color/color-charm-demi-permanent-hair-color/WELLA10.html), $9.69

[Rose Semi permanent Haircolour](https://www.sallybeauty.ca/hair/hair-color/semi-permanent-hair-color/brights-semi-permanent-hair-color/ION153.html), $11.59

*Protein Repair Treatments:*

[Ion Protein Filler](https://www.sallybeauty.ca/hair/hair-color/fillers-and-additives/protein-filler/SBS-405182.html), $7.29

[Rejuvenating Porosity Control Corrector+Conditioner,](https://www.sallybeauty.ca/hair/hair-color/hair-color-removers-and-correctors/rejuvenating-porosity-control-corrector-and-conditioner/SBS-700828.html) $14.49

*Supplies:*

[Tint brush](https://www.sallybeauty.ca/hair/hair-color/hair-color-accessories/mixing-tools/extra-wide-jumbo-tint-brush/SBS-292703.html), $2.59

[Highlight Helper Boards,](https://www.sallybeauty.ca/hair/hair-color/hair-color-accessories/hi-lite-helper-boards/SBS-181270.html) $3.39

[Mixing Bowl](https://www.sallybeauty.ca/hair/hair-color/hair-color-accessories/purple-hair-color-mixing-bowl/SBS-305961.html), $3.89

**Total: Approximately $160 CAD.**

https://preview.redd.it/4hdzj98na4v51.png?width=4032&format=png&auto=webp&s=5a80ba66e44ef1f1bcb2327aec92083cc4b3dbd4

# Step 2: Giving myself a haircut.

Next, I snipped off enough hair to experiment with. I was a bit overzealous, and chopped off about 3 inches. I like my hair shorter, anyway! I bundled these into 4 "test strands."

https://preview.redd.it/tos1mp4pa4v51.png?width=4032&format=png&auto=webp&s=08e460e1277751e669e9eeeb4e4468eb5518d07c

# Step 3: Testing Hair Colour Removers

I first tried the L'Oreal Colourzap. Strand 3 was left soaking in it for 30 minutes, the recommended maximum amount of time. Strand 4 was left soaking in it for 60 minutes (double).

Results: 60 minutes of exposure was most effective (?), but left my hair super dry. It really didn't make much of a difference, though. After I did this process I actually read the instructions, which said not to apply the product onto henna (oops!). I didn't spot any adverse chemical reactions. Also, this stuff STANK TO HIGH HEAVENS. Really nasty shit. Do not recommend.

https://preview.redd.it/poh1ou1sa4v51.png?width=4032&format=png&auto=webp&s=9369c8fa24faffaf3310b54645e5e9306309f950

Next I tried the Ion Colour remover. I applied it to strands 2 (virgin hair), and 4 (previously treated with the colourzap). Both were left for the recommended amount of time, 45 minutes. Again, the results were uninspiring; however, it didn't seem to damage the hair. Below are the results; strand 4 was the lightest, but by not very much. It's harder to see in the photo.

https://preview.redd.it/f5b3qgota4v51.png?width=4032&format=png&auto=webp&s=7d201860cf91c01034fb74a5ec4b60bc0fb9d914

Conclusion: these two haircolour removers didn't do much to my hair, other than make it dry.

# Step 4: Round 1 of Bleach

*At this point, Strand 1 was my original hair. Strand 2 was treated with Ion Colour Remover. Strand 3 was treated with Colourzap. Strand 4 was treated with both.*

So, I mixed up the bleach with 30 volume developer, at a 1:2 ratio. I wasn't sure how long I could leave the hair, and was worried about causing damage. The instructions said to check the hair every 5-10 minutes, and leave it to process for up to 50 minutes. I did this on my balcony because I was expecting some noxious fumes from the bleach, and potential chemical reactions that the internet warned me about from the bleach meeting henna.

I checked the hair every 5-10 minutes and there were ***no signs of an adverse chemical reaction***. No heat, no foaming or bubbling, no steam, nothing! Yay!

I left strand 1 processing for 30 minutes. I left strands 2-4 processing for 45 minutes.

Results (compared to strand 0, which is original hair).

https://preview.redd.it/xdz20hoxa4v51.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=73194ebdd043d8528a78df605cc1be9c7e838a8a

The hair was a little dry but not particularly damaged. Strand 4 was the dryest, and developing split ends. Otherwise the hair was still in pretty good shape - not particularly stretchy, not gummy. I didn't spot a whole lot of difference in damage between strand 1 (30 minutes bleach) and the rest (45 minutes bleach). Clearly, the hair is still quite red - but, if you look at the comparison with strand 0, you can see that quite a bit of the pigment was lifted.

[  ](https://preview.redd.it/6ymvvsv2b4v51.png?width=4032&format=png&auto=webp&s=3d5607daa731c86ed79a6e068b16110396dc2ba2)

Results from Round 1: Better lighting. Strand 0 vs. Strand 3

# Step 5: Round 2 of Bleach

I had some bleach leftover, so I decided to jump right into the second round of bleaching. I will space bleaching out by a week+ when I'm bleaching my actual hair, but for the purposes of this experiment I figured it would be fine. I applied the remaining bleach to the hair once more, and left to process for 45 minutes. Once again - there were no adverse chemical reactions.

[Results of round 2](https://preview.redd.it/ar4ua826b4v51.png?width=4032&format=png&auto=webp&s=fef0cae9800713c6f7803c8e025893a2d769ea62)

It looks like strand 4, which went through two rounds of colour remover prior to bleaching, actually lightened the most (?). However, it was also the dryest and most damaged, by quite a lot. I'm not sure that the half-a-shade difference was worth it.

[Better lighting, strands 0, 3, and 4](https://preview.redd.it/y52dq0aab4v51.png?width=936&format=png&auto=webp&s=d436f36da4a284d7f3fa2456cc2fadc68d1f27d8)

At this point I'm realizing that I'm very unlikely to reach blonde without completely frying my hair.

# Step 6: Round 3 of Bleach; Testing whether strands will hold color

I decided to try one more round of bleach. I left the strands soaking in a deep-conditioning treatment overnight, and bleached once again the following morning. I knew that I would be damaging the hair quite a bit by bleaching so much so quickly, but I was curious to see how far this would push my hair. When I move on to bleaching my actual hair, I will give my hair a long (week-month) break between bleaches.

I mixed the bleach with 30 vol developer, and left strands 1-3 soaking in bleach for 45 minutes.

Strand 4 was already quite damaged, so instead of bleaching it once more I decided to use it to test whether the hair will hold colour. I coloured strand 4 with the rose coloured dye, and left it to process for 45 minutes.

Results:

[  0 is original; 1-3 bleached 3 times; 4 bleached twice and coloured with rose semi-perm dye](https://preview.redd.it/dvhm4yweb4v51.png?width=4032&format=png&auto=webp&s=e577631f948ffdd0614fe7810af78f4df1e8b046)

After 3 rounds of bleaching in less than 24 hours, strands 1-3 were quite dry and damaged. The hair still wasnt gummy and did not stretch when dry; however, individual hairs were quite stretchy while still wet. I decided that this was as far as I would push my natural hair, unless I was absolutely certain that it had recovered enough to handle more bleach.

Strand 4 has a nice pink tint to it; however, I think that the dye I purchased was too light. I think that if the pink was a little more vibrant, the results would be a nice peachy colour.

# Step 7: Testing whether strands can be toned and demi-permanently dyed

The final step was to see whether the strands can be toned with the wella toner, which is supposed to get rid of the orange hues. I also wanted to see what colour the demi-permanent dye that I purchased would colour the hair, since my original plan was to give myself a shadow root. I used strands 2 and 3, which allowed me to keep a "reference" strand that went through 3 rounds of bleach.

I mixed the wella toner with 20 vol developer, and left in the hair for 30 minutes - strand 3.

I mixed the demi-permanent dye with 10 vol developer, and left the hair for 20 minutes - strand 2.

https://preview.redd.it/qk5ggmkjb4v51.png?width=4032&format=png&auto=webp&s=0725488d1e22fd3fad6211cf821bc6916f5c29f3

Final results.

The demi-permanent hairdye did saturate the hair, but the result was more of a chocolate brown because of the violently red hair underneath. The wella toner did tone the orange down a bit, but in my opinion it just made the colour a bit more ashy. I would call this a bust.

Summary of final results:

*0 - original hair.*

*1 - 3 rounds of bleach.*

*2 - 1 round of colour remover (largely ineffective), 3 rounds of bleach, 1 round of dark blonde demi-permanent hairdye.*

*3 - 1 round of colour remover (largely ineffective), 3 rounds of bleach, 1 round of wella toner.*

*4 - 2 rounds of colour remover (slighly effective, but not worth the damage), 2 rounds of bleach, rose semi-permanent hairdye.*

# Key Takeaways

**Takeaway 1:** You can, indeed, bleach over henna without adverse effects - not all henna has metallic salts, and therefore not all henna will chemically react with bleach. Having said that, I would not recommend jumping into bleaching your henna'd hair before doing a test strand, and checking it for heat/foam/steam.

**Takeaway 2:** At least in my case, I am unlikely to be able to get my hair to blonde. I can, however, get it to violent orange after several rounds of bleach. The toner did not do much either because the hair was still too orange for it to work. Though it made my strands a bit more ashy, I didn't think it was worth it. This means that I shouldn't have purchased some of the products that I did - specifically the wella toner and the brass colour correcting elixir.

**Takeaway 3:** Henna'd and then bleached hair does indeed hold semi and demi- permanent pigment - though it is unclear whether the henna diminishes the hair's ability to do so. Whatever colour you apply will be tinted by the underlying orange (which makes sense!). I should have opted for a more vibrant pink colour.

**Takeaway 4**: Finally, at least on my hair, the hair colour removers did not do much other than dry my hair out. I'm not convinced that this step was worth it; especially the colourzap, which smelled HORRIBLE. I think bleach is the way to go.

# Future Directions

Although my original plan was to attempt to get to blonde, I think this experiment has made it clear that this is an unlikely goal without growing out my hair. At this point, I'm going to lean into the orange, and after several rounds of bleach will be dying my hair pink for a peachy-pink hue. Part 2 with my actual hair transformation will be coming up in several weeks! :)

Bleaching over Henna: A Step-by-Step Experiment (Part 1)


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My hair is very fine, long straight and oily. Like most girls I wear my hair in a 'pineapple' (i.e tip your head upside downs and in a loose bun) when I'm lounging around the house, sleeping, and I have to have it up for work. A few years ago I was wearing it up like this very often for a few months straight, and I realised it was causing my hair to thin at the temples (pretty sure this was traction alopecia) as this is where I could feel the tension of the bun pulling.

Since then I have tried kicking the habit of wearing it like this but it is very hard. Keeping it up of my face and neck seriously helps prevents breakouts as I'm prone to acne. Sleeping like this also stops my hair looking greasy and getting frizzy if I want to wear it down the next day.

I have tried:

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-wearing it in a French plait. I can't do a French plait on myself, I have watched countless videos, I just can't do it.

I am looking for suggestions for:

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My up-do's are causing hairloss, any advice?


For years I've been trying to find a good balance between washing my hair less and having it still look good. If I wash it less frequently, it looks really oily by the next day. When I use dry shampoo, though, it looks like I've got bad dandruff. I've tried several different kinds of dry shampoo, including Dove, Not Your Mother's, Herbal Essences, and other drug store brands.

For a little background, I'm only washing my hair three days a week right now. I never use heat on it or any other products besides shampoo, conditioner, and dry shampoo. I use Chi Luxury Black Seed Oil shampoo and conditioner (as recommended by my hairstylist) and only shampoo the roots and condition the ends. I have a good diet and drink lots of water and take biotin, b-complex, iron, and multivitamin supplements every day. Also, I never wrap my hair or use hair accessories that pull on the roots, and I use a satin pillowcase.

I don't want to go back to washing my hair every day, because I can see a big difference my scalp's natural oils have made on my hair, but I can't seem to find that good balance. Any advice?

Edit: I feel like I should also note that I really don't like most scented hair products, *especially* the dry shampoos. The scents have always been way too strong for my liking and are actually pretty distracting. Any unscented options would be so great!

I want to wash my hair less frequently, but dry shampoo makes me look like I have bad dandruff. What's a girl to do?


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Posted this in r/advice and got exactly 0 replies, so I'm hoping for better results here :)

Always had long hair, but never took care of it.
 Chopped it all off, very short, about a year ago, and I'm starting now to grow it back out. I want to do it right, so that once it's long again, it looks and feels healthy. Looking for advice, such as:

I know I need trims, but how often? I don't want to keep cutting it just as fast as it grows!

What hairstyles and hair accessories  will help keep the hair healthy, vs. damaging styles/hair accessories?

What should I do with it at night? Should I invest in a really soft pillowcase, too?

 How often to do deep hair masks? And which ones are the best?

And any other bits of advice! Thanks in advance.

Edit: I have very thick hair, nearly black (but terrible greys), and hair type is somewhere between 1b and 1c, if this info helps.

Looking for advice on how to re-grow my long hair for its maximum health and beauty


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My hair is naturally wavy, fine, and oily.

A few days ago I got a haircut, and wanted to try something different, so got an across-forehead/fringe cut. I didn't realize that this might cause a problem while I sleep, as I normally pull it back in a ponytail for the night. I would like to be able to just clip it back, or do something simple, but my hair creases extremely easily, so even just a bobby pin in it for five minutes leaves it crimped and un-fixable.

This has been an issue I've had when putting my hair up for quite some time, but now It's something I'm actually very bothered by as I'm working on clearing up my skin as well as getting into minimally shampooing/hair washing routine, and right above my forehead is my one trouble spot. I don't like using product for styling, but I will try as a last ditch effort.

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**TL;DR Hair crimps with accessories, trying to keep grease-prone bangs off of acne-prone forehead. My hair is naturally wavy, fine, and oily.**

If I should be posting in a different sub or cross-posting, please let me know!

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I recently discovered clip-in extensions, and I wear them on special occasions (worn them 6 times since getting them a month ago). Now, every time I take them off, I can't help but feel sad when looking at my real hair. The 22-inch length gives me so much confidence; I truly wish I had longer hair.

I've heard that hair has a terminal length; however, I know that my current hair length is not it, and I can't seem to grow it anymore. To be fair, I have been cutting my hair every summer or fall, neck-length, but I skipped cutting it this year. It always gets to this point (on my shoulders), and then it just doesn't grow anymore.

I don't really know how to take care of my hair, to be honest. I would appreciate any tips. I dyed and bleached my hair at a very young age several times, but I haven't dyed it again in like 3 years (usually dyed it dark brown or black; hair was naturally black before). Before I bleached my hair at 10 years old, my hair was midway to my back. I am 20 now, and it just doesn't grow. I have a lot of hair, and it is pretty thick but not coarse, and it is a little wavy. My hair does get frizzy and poofy sometimes, especially during the winter and spring.

I wash my hair 4-5 times a week, but I don't use any special shampoos or conditioners because I gave up looking for the best one. I shower with warm to hot water usually and dry my hair with a towel. I very rarely use heat on my hair (curled my hair 2 times in the past year, blow-dried about once). I use a regular cheap brush and use rosemary oil or OGX biotin & collagen hair mist before bed. I don't use a special pillowcase, but I just ordered a silk one after reading a few posts on here.

I want to start taking care of my hair and start my hair growth journey now. Please give me advice on what to change and do. Also, is it okay for me to continue to use my clip-ins every now and then, meanwhile, or should I stop using them?

I can't grow my hair past my shoulders...


Every claw clip breaks. Every hair band or scrunchie comes loose and many have snapped. I would love to simply wrap my hair in a bun and stick a fork through it. This doesn’t work with pencils or money paintbrushes.

I don’t know if I’m making the buns too tight but it’s hard to avoid— my hair strands aren’t super thick but I have so much hair so the tension will be high very easily when wrapping into a bun. Any ideas?

Hair stick etc recommendations for dense head of hair? UK


Hi all! I am 5’8 with thick wavy/straight hair and my length has reached about 24”. I really want to keep growing it longer but I feel like ive been struggling with breakage at this point, I use a regular brush from target and do search and destroy as well as using Pantene leave in but I’m wondering if the brush and leave in arent helpful? Im also looking into sleeping with a bonnet as I usually have it in a claw clip. Thank you!!

Tips for length retention?


Are they better than hairties or are they just the same in terms of damage? Are there even better alternatives? I have thick, wavy hair and like to keep it protected without braiding it. I usually just twist into a claw clip or put it under a 100% cotton bandanna during the day. (The latter leaves me with a lot of matting near my nape, but silk falls off if not pinned.)

Claw clips


I’m no longer a member of the long hair club but thank you for keeping me entertained and informed during my short stay!

After 20 years of short hair, I decided to grow it out and donate it in memory of a family member who passed away.

I grew it out from 2022-last week, getting trims 2-3x per year.

I tried stuff to speed up growth:
Biotin supplements
Scalp massage
Rosemary essential oil
But it consistently grew a half inch per month whether I did anything or not.

Wash routine:
Every 4 days. Over the last 4 years I used probably 4 different shampoos. Everything from Dollar General’s finest to some French brand I got from a beauty influencer.

The only difference I could tell was clarifying shampoo made my scalp too dry in the winter so I switched to a sea salt and bergamot gloss shampoo.

Conditioner was nothing special. Mostly $8 bottles from Walmart.

A lot of hair came out in the shower the last 2 years and then it just stopped falling out the last 5 months before cutting it. No idea why.

I used Not Your Mother’s curl defining cream and I could tell it made a difference. I used a spray detangler/conditioner a few times per week. My hair is wavy and was always tangled.

No heat tools (except the 1 time I got a blowout) mostly air-drying but sometimes I used a warm or cool blow dryer in winter.

I slept in a satin bonnet every night, kept it braided or in a claw clip a lot.

My takeaways from my brief stay in Long Hair Land:

Long, thick, healthy hair is gorgeous
It is also a lot of work
Beware: everything looks easy on YouTube. It is not.
Those big barrel brushes are not for beginners.
Tiny rubber bands don’t come out without a fight
I felt like a beautiful, magical mermaid with long hair, but now that it’s cut, I feel nothing but relief! It feels good to have my short hair back! And I hope my hair will help another redhead feel like herself again after hair loss.

Spent 4 years growing it out, then donated 20 inches!


This is my second clip from target that I’ve broke. I can make it work but I can never fit the entirety of my hair in it. This is the biggest I’ve ever found in store and when I look online it’s really only SHEIN/cheap plastic that’s around the same size as this one.

I have thick curly hair.

Advice please

Where are we getting our claw clips


This is my hair.. it is so unbelievably precious to me and I feel like I look after it well but I must be doing something wrong.
I wash it twice a week with the body shop ginger shampoo and banana conditioner.
When wet: being leave in conditioner, the body shop grape seed oil, lush shield heat protector, lush super milk. I then blow dry as my hair is so thick it takes hours to dry naturally.
I use the ordinary hair peptides at night and massage my scalp for 5 minutes every day for 7 days, once a month.
I loosely plait it for bed and wear either a claw clip, fork or french plait/s during the day. HOWEVER, I am a runner so I wear it in a high ponytail 3x a week (this is the only style that works for me whilst running)
My hair is naturally pin straight since having a baby 2 years ago. Before pregnancy it was extremely curly.
I seem to have breakage in the front and perhaps split ends? I have no idea how to deal with it.. I feel like it looks really bad and I’m devastated.. please help if you can.

Does this look bad?


Has anyone here with thick and long hair tried the big effin clip? Does it hold your hair up for a full up do?

Emi Jay Claw Clips


I have very long/ thick hair and im unsure how to cut it. It is up in a claw clip most of the time as i try to stay away from hair ties due to breakage. Im just not sure what would work for me. The shorter it is the curlier it gets.

Cutting my hair


Background: My hair is bra strap length. I had a bob that I grew out. My last haircut was  February 2024. I am planning to get a trim soon to cut off some of the dead ends, but I want to keep the length overall.

It is very thick and wavy and my claw clip or even a bun feels too heavy behind my head. What are some ways I could put my hair up for work that are easy? How do you wear your hair at work?

How to wear hair for work?


My hair is very straight and slippery. "Thick" is probably not the most accurate description, the single hairs are of average thickness, there's just an absolute shitton of it.

I love it, but sometimes it's just a sensory nightmare I want out of my way in less than 30 seconds. I move around A LOT, and most easy quick hairstyles I've tried have been coming undone in a matter of minutes. On top of that I also have a pretty sensitive scalp, which means I can't have too much tension on it, or my head'll start hurting.

What I've tried:
- Claw clip. I've been using a special oversized one I bought at a hairdresser's a few years ago, but it's getting too small to hold all of my hair in.
- Hair pins. They slide out. I've put them in myself, I've had an experienced friend put them in, doesn't matter, slidey slide after like 30 mins.
- Low bun with hair ties. Slidey slide again.

I've kind of given up and resorted to braiding it every time I want it out of my sight and sensory perception, but that's not exactly super practical so I'd love to hear of anything else I can do!

Quick wqys to manage tailbone length, slippery, thick hair?


In 2021 I decided to grow it long. I stopped using heat on it, stopped wearing clip in extensions, began doing  weekly oil treatments, switched to silk pillow cases and scrunchies & using damage repairing products. The difference is insane. I do dye it but honestly it doesn’t seem to hurt it. I use 20 volume developer on my roots only and semi permanent dye mixed with conditioner in the shower to keep it vibrant.

Routine:

•Brush gently daily

•Wash every other day using Dove Intensive Repair shampoo & conditioner. Conditioner is mixed with an equal amount of Adore’s Cajun Spice semi permanent dye.

•Gently towel dry, comb and apply 1 pump of Olaplex No. 6 Bond Smoother to the mid lengths and ends

•Air dry

•Apply a small amount (nickel sized amount) of Chi’s keratin silk infusion serum + 1 drop jojoba oil to the bottom third of hair, focusing on the ends

•Once weekly I apply a mixture of oils to my scalp and entire head of hair and leave it in for a minimum of 1 hour prior to showering:

•Jojoba oil

•Sweet Almond Oil

•Castor Oil (not as much because it’s THICK)

•Rosemary & Peppermint Essential Oils (2 drops each)

•For volume at the roots I use dry texture spray and if I’m wearing it up I will apply hair spray to tame flyaways if needed.

It’s taken me so long to grow it this length


Has anyone ever found a claw clip that's actually big enough for thick hip-length hair? I am looking to put my hair up completely with it with no hair hanging out. None that I have seen in shops are big enough to hold my hair and I'm not convinced that the ones advertised online as being for long hair are going to be any better. Thanks!

Claw Clips


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This is my totally virgin hair. I have not heat-styled or dyed it in ten years. I have naturally wavy and frizzy hair that is pretty susceptible to damage, especially sun damage. I get split ends like crazy! I basically haven't touched it since cutting it to collar-bone length two years ago. (though as you can see I am still growing out the layers) This is the longest it's ever been in my entire life and I want to see how low it will get if I start to take care of it. For the past month I've started wearing it up during the day. (cycling between a single braid or low pony tail and the occasional half-up with a claw clip.) I wear it in double-braids to sleep and use a satin pillow case and silk scrunchies or claw clips exclusively. I wash it about once a week with l'oreal thickening shampoo and shea moisture strength and repair conditioner. I only brush it before it goes into braids for the night and just finger-comb when necessary if I need to redo whatever style I am wearing on that day. Unfortunately I stress pluck, so I have seen significant thinning on the crown of my head and at my temples. Luckily I still have pretty thick hair, but it's lost probably 1/4 to a 1/3 of its thickness just from the plucking alone. It's drastically improved since I've started being so intentional with my hair, so I hope I can slowly shift the compulsive plucking into hair care rituals (like braiding or very gently detangling with my fingers instead). I think gaining length will also check the behavior, as the more effort I put into my hair, the harder it will be to mindlessly destroy it when I am bored or stressed.

I am getting my first trim in a year next week, how do my ends look? How much should I take off? I am thinking a half-inch to an inch to even everything out and get rid of all my split ends. I am also considering starting to make homemade rosemary oil to start oiling the ends since they are so dry. Any recipes or recommendations? Should I add mint or lavender to it, or keep it simple? How often do you typically oil the ends? Everyday? Every wash day?

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Begining of my hair growth journey (advice welcomed!)


Hello!

Does anybody have any claw clip recommendations for really long/thick and densely wavy hair? I love claw clips but they always end up snapping or leaving strands out.

Claw Clips


A frustrating part of my day is stuffing all my hair under a shower cap and it fighting back and pulling the shower cap off to the side or poking out somewhere so bits of my hair get damp anyway 😂

My hair is very thick and down to my butt. I usually put it in a low ponytail that I don’t pull all the way through on the third pull, flip it around and balance it on top of my head, then put the shower cap on. But as my hair has gotten longer and bulkier it slides off the top of my head to one side and is heavy enough to pull on the shower cap in doing so.

I have considered trying a big claw clip but then I don’t think the shower cap would be big enough to fit all that in + bulky clip sticking out.

So… super long hair girls, what’s your strategy?! Oh and if you have any totally waterproof BIG shower cap suggestions that’d be helpful too!

How do you keep your hair under your shower cap?


Hey everyone,
I have hair uptil my hips and they are pretty thick. I'm a doctor, and I have insanely long hours, I like doing my hair in a ponytail, but I start having a headache after a couple of hours. Any tips. I like that all my hair is pulled back while im working. I dont like buns they open up pretty easily. and braids after a while loook like ive been through armageddon and back. any suggestionss lol

edit: sometimes i put a clip to give the ponytail some support, but after a while that starts hurting too!

Ponytail with thick hair


Pic1: day two head frizz, pic2: day two overall frizz, pic3: just showered, brushed + oil, pic4: an hour into air drying, pic5: two hours after air drying. I know the lighting is harsh, but want to show the frizz.

So, this is going to be a long one because I need help.

My hair is the longest it has every been. I cut it really short once (bob, around age 10) and have let it get longer ever since. I pretty much never go to the hairdresser (can't remember the last time), since my mom is able to cut off the split/dead ends neatly (she had a side job at the hair dressers as a kid, saves me a ton of money). I do not have particularly thick hair, but do have a decent amount of it and it feels like quite a lot just because it is so long (waist length currently).

I shed a normal amount in the shower when washing my hair, which I do about every other day (sometimes I squeeze in an extra day). If I wash it on day one (usually in the afternoon/evening), day two is great and over the course of day three it gets greasy (especially around my roots at my crown and around my face). I air dry it because I feel like blow drying makes the frizz even worse. The water it on the hard side where I live, we should have a filter but I feel like it is still quite hard.

I currently use Schwarzkopf Gliss Total Repair shampoo (I shampoo twice, because otherwise it doesn't feel clean), and then use the matching conditioner. I picked these because I came across the ingredient dimethicone that is said to reduce static and thus frizz. Having been using it for about a month.
I used to use a random hair mask, but have run out and not found something new yet. After throwing it up in a microfiber hair towel for a few minutes, I let it down, gently brush (starting with the ends and working up) and I put in Aussie Reconstructor Oil from about shoulder length to the ends. Sometimes I put in Schwarzkopf Gliss Split End Serum on day two (also shoulders to ends) when it is particularly frizzy. I don't put anything closer to my roots because it will get greasy even quicker. But, that leaves me with the frizz. I dislike using hairspray/mouse/gel (but will do it every so often when the frizz get even worse than in the first pic).

Over the last few years I have had periods where I thought: 'you know what?  I am going to really figure out my hair care so it looks nice." And then I get sick of having to spend money on trying out products and not having it work out real quick.
Important to note: I do NOT want to have to spend any time styling my hair. Anything about my appearance is extremely low effort, it want to have to spend as little time (and preferably money 😅) thinking about it as possible. I don't wear makeup, don't do my nails, and do not ever style my hair. I wear it down when out, in a high ponytail for a few hours a week when going to the gym, and a low ponytail/bun/braid or half up in a claw clip when at home.

What I am looking for is to reduce the intense frizz and have the length look healthier. I hate the frizz especially around my head/on top of my head. I think most of it is likely breakage due to a period of wearing it in a tight low bun and due to the high ponytail for the gym. I am trying to stop doing the bun, but really would not like to wear my hair low/in a braid in the gym.
I also would like to think that my hair can look a little more shiny/smooth/healthy(?) with good products.

I know I should probably cut the ends soon, they're not too dry/split but it might help it look a bit more healthy. Another note: it don't live anywhere particularly warm or moist (northwestern Europe).

So, please be honest with me. I know I probably need to invest more time and money than I'm doing now to get results, but I know I won't keep up an elaborate routine. I do not enjoy trying products or researching hair care like so many people do (I wish I did), so I hope some long-haired folks here have some good recommendations based on experience.

PS: Should I end this with an 'amen' since it is so long lol?

Please help me with this frizz


For someone with long, very thick hair, the Upzing has worked perfectly for a tie back, without a big clip to bump against the headrest while driving. It appears Scuncio (Conair) has long since discontinued them and the surplus carded Upzings on eBay generally fall apart quickly due to degraded elastic. Nothing else seems to work and have been searching for a new option that works in a similiar way. TIA if anyone has any ideas.

Looking for alternative to the discontinued Scunci Upzing


i have really long thick hair and i have a job that requires a hair net. i use to wear a claw clip but i’ve outgrown it, what other styles can i do that will hold?

Hair net hairstyles


I'm a biology student with hair down to my tailbone! When I put my hair in a ponytail it falls in my face still and is a fire hazard/risks getting into my work. Any tips on how to put it up? I hate bobby pins and most buns but I can do a quick one that does the job but it doesn't look very good. I love claw clips but they don't seem to work because my hair is so long and thick. I was thinking of buying an XXL claw clip and trying that but I'm not sure it's worth it. Any tips?

Hair up for Lab


My hair is currently between BSL and waist. It’s quite thick and though it’s slightly wavy, it’s very slippery. It’s now too long for claw clip (the basic twist in half) without leaving a few inches of the ends out the bottom. I have some sticks and forks but they’re falling out and just not secure.

I think my thickness is causing the functional length to be too short to do these yet? Or is there a certain bun that’s best for long but not super long hair I’m missing? I’ve mostly been trying nautilus. That’s what I used to use all the time when my hair was TBL and a lot of the other buns I see seem to require more length

Stick buns for long but thick and smooth hair?


I'm looking for a big claw clip that's strong enough for my long thick hair. Also some smaller ones that are strong.

Does anyone know of any good brands in the US? Or anything from Amazon?

Claw clips for long thick hair


My hair is pretty much to my waist, and I have a LOT of thick course hair (this was right after a blowout with “curls” -that immediately fall out lol-) and it’s gotten to a point now where a “messy bun” doesn’t really work for me because there’s still too much hair left hanging down from it/to tie it up properly.

I get really hot when my hair is down (ironic, I know) and claw clips don’t seem to work for me anymore, because the amount hanging out of the clip is still long enough to hit my neck lol

What are some ways to keep your hair off your neck.

I often do pigtail braids and don’t like the ballerina/cinnamon roll style bun (especially since I don’t like having my hair pulled back so tight) so looking for an easy “messy bun” type idea that will work!

Also any idea for hair for sweating/working out. Again, the pigtail braids have been the only thing I’ve come up with so far.

Thanks in advance!

Ideas for tying up long hair


Exactly what the title says, RIP to my 6” claw clip! I have medium thick, slightly wavy tailbone length hair, and I’ve never been able to find a claw clip that works for me. They’re always way too small or slide out of my hair. This one was doing okay until I readjusted it a bit too aggressively today. I hate when it doesn’t grip properly or pulls at a single strand of hair! I think I’m ready to switch to hair sticks and forks!

(P.S. yes the clip is oily, it was holding my hair back after I oiled to prep for washing)

RIP 6” Claw Clip


I started properly growing and looking after my hair last September, and whilst I'm unsure if it's grown a 'lot', the thing I've noticed more than anything is a difference in thickness. I don't think it's 'long' yet, and I have a while until I get to my goal length, but it feels like a little victory when I see people who haven't seen me for a while and they say 'your hair looks so thick now'!
My routine is fairly simple, and I'm back into the habit of it after a few stressful months where I didn't look after my hair properly. If anyone has any advice on how I can improve my routine to see more results, I'd love to hear them 🩷
- Wash my hair every other day or every day depending on what I've been doing, with head and shoulders to manage my scalp dermatitis
- Condition with either Ogx rosemary and mint or L'Oréal dream lengths, currently preferring the Ogx conditioner as it doesn't weigh my hair down
- Umberto Gianini rosemary scalp oil on my scalp after washing as per instructions on the bottle (4-8 drops massaged in). I find this balances my scalp out and has really helped hairline thickness
- Oil or serum on the ends, or if I have the money Lush super milk (the best!!!)
- blow dry scalp on cold setting, sometimes the lengths too but not very often
- Sleep in two french braids I pin up with bobby pins and a satin pillowcase
- Then either a claw clip, French braids or a bun if I'm going out, or if I'm not doing a lot just brushed out
- I do dye my hair, once every 6-8 months. I use either a box dye that's a gloss, or, if I have the money, I'll have it dyed professionally
- Finally, I do a split end dusting myself once a month, and then the month I dye my hair I'll also have it trimmed to help with the health of my ends
- I take folic acid and a multivitamin, and try and eat oily fish regularly

If anyone has any suggestions I'd love to hear them. I'm just really proud of how thick my hair looks now ☺

Finally seeing a difference in thickness!


My hair is just to the top of my butt and I’m looking for some quick hairstyle ideas to protect my hair but also look put together. My hair is pretty straight, thick, and kinda oily. I have to lay in bed with my kids multiple times a day to put them down for naps so things like buns always get in the way or get messed up. I really suck at braids. I’ve tried claw clips but have never found one big enough to hold all my hair but if someone knows of a good quality clip for long thick hair that would also be appreciated.

Hair style ideas


Ive got long and thick hair last time I measured it was around 4ft long. normal claw clips brake or just fall out. I want to do protective styles to help the health of my hair but no where near me seams to sells claw clips that are big enough to fit my hair and hold it . anyone have recommendations of where I can find claw clips or at this point any clip that could hold my hair. plsss

claw clips that don't brake & work on long hair


past 2-3 years my hair has been NON STOP falling out, it’s literally shedding like crazy and idk what to do. i used to have very very thick hair like it was so thick to the point where it was hard to use a clip or my hair would only tie itself with a scrunchie with 2 twists but now even in clips my hair falls loose and it takes a solid 3-4 twists for a scrunchie, what do i do??

my hair won’t stop falling out


I want to get my mom one for her birthday and she has very long thick and frizzy hair and i wanted to know if anybody knows of a claw clip that will hold up and work for that kind of hair? thank you 😭😭

Good claw clips for VERY thick hair?


So I have hair that now reaches my ribcage. What I would consider to be on the thinner side but there’s so much of it that it looks quite thick. And I cannot for the life of me find a claw clip that will hold it all. Thick hair ties do work, but I have to take my hair up and down a lot so they’re not super convenient. Does anyone have any recommendations or alternative ideas? I have also considered learning to do French twists or taking a look at the Japanese hair sticks (is that what they’re called?) cause I know those styles are designed for long hair.

Large claw clip recommendations


My hair is around 45 inches long and VERY thick. In the summer I need something to wear it up without giving me a headache (regular hair bows/scrunchies give me a bad headache after a short time)

I constantly break hair claw clips, and have yet to find one that is comfortable enough to wear (doesn’t poke me in the scalp) or doesn’t either slide out of my hair or not hold it at all. Please send me toward a good claw clip that’s worked for you!? RIP to my fave hair clip :(

Help meeee? See caption.


Hello all! I bought two of these online in hopes to use them on days I don’t want to do my hair while I study abroad in Japan because I hate doing my hair but want to look nice and my hair doesn’t like to hold I also just don’t know how to do hair. However I’ve ran into an issue I have pretty thick hair and it’s decently long so I don’t know how to use this while hiding my hair the clip is a bit small so I’m not sure what to do. I’d also love to know any cheap but good fake hair that’s like in the shape of a bun but like as a ponytail (I probably described that horribly😭) Any help would be great! Thanks!

How can I use this fake bun claw clip?


Long post and I kinda veer off topic with a parent rant for a sec lol so sorry in advance!

So I chopped all of my hair off a couple years ago and have deeply regretted it since. Went from butt length to a short bob and then had to cut MORE off because the original stylist butchered it so so bad (if I can post pics in comments and yall are curious I’ll try to find the pic lmao it’s bad and I sobbed for two days… that’s why I hate getting it cut at a salon!) and I decided shortly after to grow it out and NEVER cut it again minus trims.

I got it so long before 1(took a couple years) thanks to an itworks product that my husband is understandably not willing to spend $75 on (but dang did it work lol) so I’m definitely having some trouble growing it out right now, it’s almost to the middle of my back again. I did go back to my natural blonde from red, but have been trimming it myself periodically about an inch at a time every few months or less if it looks too bad, and I haven’t touched a single chemical to it in over a year. I don’t use ANY sort of heat on it, only use silk ponytail holders or a claw clip loosely.

Im running into an issue that within even an HOUR of washing it, using a small amount of conditioner or deep conditioning once a week, my ends seriously look crispy. Like a really bad  kinkiness/dryness. I absolutely hate it. My husband loves playing with my hair because it’s super thick, but I won’t even let him touch it anymore because it feels so gross to me.

What the actual heck am I doing wrong 😩

The first hour after washing it and everything it feels luxuriously beautiful and soft but the more it dries the more it feels crispy and disgusting at the ends.

I’ve tried so so many EXPENSIVE shampoos/conditioners (I don’t even know the names of them at this point I’ve tried so many), I’ve swapped hair skin and nails vitamins a million times, I’ve tried different routines as far as moisturizing goes. Absolutely nothing is helping and it’s driving me insane. Until that cut, my hair was beautiful. Ends were soft and yeah there was a few split ends but it still looked great. Did something with my haircut mess it up permanently? I don’t want to grow it out just to have this be a permanent issue that there’s no solution for.

The shampoo/conditioner I was using pre cut was an expensive subscription one from Function of Beauty and I do think that contributed to my hairs overall health and beauty BUT my pre teen stepdaughter got pissed off at me one day right after I’d gotten new bottles in and dumped the ENTIRE THING of both down the drain while she was in the shower. I haven’t ordered since mainly because they are pretty pricey sometimes and I’m worried she will do it again… I don’t want to have to lock my things up to keep her hands off of them (she’s dumped lotions, perfumes, body washes etc before several times too when she’s mad at me) but dang I just want my beautiful hair back. I made the BIGGEST mistake cutting it all off and I’m so scared it won’t ever go back to the way it was. My hair was my pride and joy, truly my best asset.

If anyone has ANY ideas, I’d appreciate it. Not only for the crispiness but for getting this hair to just freaking GROW 🤣

Saw a similar post so wanted to post here and ask… help?!


So I have collarbone/armpit length hair, currently growing it out. My hair is slightly wavy, fine but very thick hair. The problem I am facing is that whenever I put it up in a claw clip, when I put it down my hair ends always flicks upwards in a very weird angle. Sometimes both sides, sometimes one side, it really looks so bad. Putting it in scrunchies also does the same, my hair always flicks either upward or downward and sometimes get squashed (?) by the scrunchie. I have tries using both silk and satin ones but nothing is helping. It looks good after washing it but whenever I pull it up, it always ends up like this. I am tired of it so much, I just don't know what to do with my hair anymore. Has anyone faced the same problem? If so, then please tell me what worked for you. Thank you!!!

Help why does my hair always flick upwards?


I have long, medium thick, but fine hair. I can never find a hair clip that feels secure enough for me.

Also struggle with finding good clips for half up/half down styles.

Please give me your claw clip recommendations


I have fine hip length hair. I saw a video of someone with similar hair doing pin curls and they turned out beautiful. They recommended specific clips which I tried and I’ve tried Bobby pins. I would love to make this work but the amount of hair due to length makes the rolls very thick and they don’t hold well unless I do smaller ones but then those don’t have good space to clip. Has anyone successfully done pin curls and have any tips or tricks? I’m tired of braids and want a comfortable overnight heartless method!

Pin curls? Help!


Hi all, I've been growing out my hair from a chin length bob since 2023-ish. The hair care sin I've been commiting my whole life is that I don't use conditioner, it's just not something I was raised with.

My hair is now past bra strap length - the longest it's been in my life! My current routine is Garnier Fructis Grow Strong shampoo, and Balea hair oil (Castor and sunflower oil). It's up in a claw clip most days, and I trim it every 4-5 months.

My question is - would a conditioner really make that much of a difference? I wouldn't say my hair is particularly oily/dry or thick/thin, although it survived intense home bleaching so I assume the strands can take a beating.

Any product recommendations are welcome! Europe based/drugstore preferably. :)

To condition or not to condition?


Hi All,

Just wanted to show off my hair as I love the look of it this morning. For the longest time, I didn’t realise that my hair needed “looking after”, and all I did was shampoo it.

After joining this sub, I realised that there can be a lot more to it. This is my hair the morning after wash day, after sleeping with a plait and a satin bonnet.

Hair Routine:

1. Hair Mask for x2 hours (minimum) on dry hair, and let it soak in while in up in a claw clip
2. Shower and rinse out hair mask
3. Shampoo and rinse x2 times
4. Conditioner, leave in for a few minutes and then rinse
5. Squeeze water out of hair and apply hair oil to mid and ends
6. Air dry

I don’t rinse out the hair oil, and I don’t oil my scalp at all as it seems to be doing quite nicely from the shampoo. I only wash my hair once every 5-7 days, when the top starts to get a bit greasy. My hair is super thick and the ends always seem to be a bit dehydrated, so I also sometimes oil them during the week.

Having An Actual Hair Care Routine Has Helped Me Immensely


I have thick wavy hair and I’m trying to achieve a low bun made of two braids. Or even one braid. But a scrunchie, bobby pins, they really can’t do the trick. They either fall out or they tuck the heck out of my scalp. What will help! A method? A specific pin or clip? All advice welcome.

Best way to secure low braid bun so it doesn’t pull?


Did the clip in cause damage? I have thick hair but am in agony with it being so short.

Has anyone used daily clip in extensions while waiting for their hair to grow out?


Hello everyone I need some advice please.
I used to have very thick mid-back long hair but after  very stressful 3years with an ED I developed anemia so I think it all contributed to an insane amount of breakage overtime. I got my health back in control and still trying to. But my hair now is extremely brittle at the ends and it is barely shoulder length. The top is very thick and puffy and the bottom is so thin. I can't even clip it nor do a bun or a ponytail because it just looks like I have one single strand of hair.
Is cutting it necessary? I'm still very attached to it and I don't know how to handle short hair especially since the texture of mine is sort of a 3A. Can't hear top still grow down even if I don't cut it?
Now I only use alot of almond oil, olive oil, and leave in conditioners that have no silicone in them (I find them drying)
If anyone went through a similar experience please share your advice I'd really appreciate it. Also what type of hairstyles do you even do for this hair situation? Now I only clip it but it still looks very ugly in the back because it's a very small amount of hair. I look back at old pictures of my hair and it's really ridiculous how sad I get I just really wonder if it could ever go back to the way it was.

Thick top and thin ends


Please help me!! I have very long hair (down to my butt) and it's quite thick and heavy. I recently became a mom and I need my hair up. My problem is, no claw clips fit my hair, and my hair will not stay in a typical twist bun. I can't do a ponytail obviously it still gets in the way. Nothing holds without falling out 20 minutes later. I really need my hair up with a baby but everything either pulls (because my hair is too heavy) or it falls out shortly after. I'm stumped.

Please sent me any claw clip recommendations or hairstyles to keep very long hair up securely.

How to keep extremely long hair up!!


Looking for styling / casual updo ideas for a deathhawk/mowhawk that is grown out to waist length.  The sides are completely buzzed down.   My hair is very fine but very thick, so despite not having all the hair on the sides, I still have SO MUCH hair to “deal” with.

Generally I need to keep it out of my face and up out of “harms way” where it could get caught on anything from my armpits to the Vaccum cleaner or in the grasp of a small but mighty child.   Usually a high ponytail or messy bun, however as of late it has been putting a lot of stress on my scalp and causes significant pain if left in the pony for longer than half the day.

I’m looking for ideas to get it up and out of my face, without the stress to my scalp, and also not be excessively time consuming or complicated.  Most of the ideas I’ve seen involve the “side hair” as places to clip or pin or pony the hair, which I don’t have as an option (bc there is no hair there to grasp).

Any ideas or suggestions are appreciated. TIA!

Styling ideas for deathhawk/mowhawk hair that is waist length .


So I’ve had a big transition lately- quit old toxic job, start new job, breakup (great guy great experience just didn’t want to continue via long distance with no end in sight as he returned to grad school). I have 4 inches of natural growth after some similarly emotional induced highlights that were kinda brassy (but not too far My natural color). Hair- which was to my belt last summer- had gotten brittle from the frequent highlights combined with long distance running. I also got on medication this past fall which helps a lot- I used to neglect myself more and not wash it until it was so dirty. It was always up in a bun or pony which gave me a headache due to how thick and long it was. I have OCD and had been harmed by a guy I tried dating so I needed to purge the “bad energy” hair that existed during the same time he existed in my life.

So I lobbed to my shoulders last January and a short layered bob around September. Me boss screamed at me for the 2nd time in 3 years so I went into mental health meltdown. I got mentorship, medication, haircut and started a new job at the beginning of December. My breakup happened right before Christmas.

I have the intense urge to cut a pixie, even though I haven’t had one in 12 years and frankly pixie doesn’t look great with my lifestyle (frequent sports- running, skiing, etc) and my propensity for occasional self-neglect. I realize I can’t just roll out of bed and throw my hair up, I can’t put it up at all with a pixie. I also feel mannish and exposed- I like the comfort of my soft curly long hair. To twirl but I also feel safe and pretty with my long thick curly hair.

I feel like any time I have had the urge to cut it in the past, there’s been a realization that I just needed to wash and style it. Like of course greasy pulled back dirty hair doesn’t feel or look good. And I can start doing a braid/bun/claw clip or hat with a pony during my runs because it would become matted when I went running due to the length hitting my sweaty back over and over and over. In other words, I can easily learn to take care of it instead of neglect then freak out and chop.

I just feel like I really need to get rid of all non-natural color hair ASAP even though I could just wait a year then cut it off THEN into another non layered medium bob. If I cut pixie, the next year will be like miserable self-punishment where I’m even further from my long hair goal but have the added awkward grow in maintenance phase.  Since it’s  already at collarbone (shortest layer at my ears) I  can get rid of my color in a year but still be close to long hair.

I’m also 30, so I don’t want the first half of my 30s to be waiting for hair to grow. It really is like a phantom limb where I feel like yelling “I have really thick curly long hair, you just can’t see it!!”

Tl;dr-
Anyone have advice for “dramatic” actions you can take after a breakup/toxic job to healthy job transition/mental health episode that doesn’t involve cutting off your hair, preferably that you can do indoors and is touch-based? Like I could exercise but it doesn’t stop the intense urge to change my entire appearance. Idk. Maybe paint nails? So far been looking at long hair pics and remembering I don’t deserve to suffer and feel ugly/bare

How do you deal with the intense emotional urge to get pixie during crisis?


I have decently long hair but it’s very thick and heavy, does anyone know off an industrial strength claw clip that can hold a lot of hair?

Claw clip search


Hi, I'm someone who has pretty long and thick hair and sometimes I have to keep it out of my way. All my life I've only been able to keep my hair in two ways: low ponytail and down.

In the past I've tried tutorials, and it might be due to my poor motor skills, but I've never found one that really works for me. The claw clip I have isn't enough to hold it, I've tried a hair stick which didn't work either.

I don't know how to style my hair at all and it gets really mess when I try. But I'm willing to learn so any advice or pointers are welcome. Is it even possible? I have straight asian hair, if that helps. Thank you!

How do you guys tie up your hair?


I have really thick hair that almost goes to my butt. I'm really tired of putting my hair up with a band. I have yet to find a clip that can withstand my hair. If ya got one, lay it on me.

Send me links to the largest hair clip you can find.


BACKSTORY/CONTEXT: I’m very immunocompromised so I wasn’t able to get over an illness I had for several months. I would get better then really sick again and over the course of several months, I was given a couple different antibiotics bc nothing was working! I even ended up in the hospital for a while just to figure out what the heck was going on. I’m finally healthy and not on antibiotics, BUT over the past 2ish months specifically, I have lost so much hair. I only brush or wash my hair once a week and on those days I lose so much hair in my brush before I get in the shower, a ton while washing in the shower, and even more when I brush it again after the shower/run product through my hair with my hands. I’m talking clumps and it’s really depressing. On the days I’m not washing or brushing it just falls out everywhere all day. I find it everywhere.. I have long, thick, curly hair that goes down to my 🍑cheeks and it’s gotten very thin from all the loss..

I recently started using natural hair oils on my hair after the shower first (jojoba oil, hemp seed oil, vitamin E oil, and argon oil) then I follow up with 2 curl conditioning creams and a leave in conditioner. I noticed the past two weeks doing that I’ve had a little less hair loss that before but it’s still a bit of loss regardless.

I’ve been wearing my hair up in a clip as a “protective” hair style and to stop all the loss I find everywhere when I wear it down and natural. I find that I mess with my hair way less when it’s in the clip so I assumed it would help.

I am taking vitamins on top of all that such as iron, D3 and biotin to help.
I know it’s going to take time for my hair to come back but does anyone have any other suggestions, advice or recommendations? I’ll take any help I can get rn!!

Sorry for the long novel and excuse all the grammar mistakes in advance. Don’t come for me pleaseeee🩷

Help! Losing hella hair after months of being on antibiotics.. :(


I don't have a photo right now but I can always take one later but anyway, my problem is I'm having terrible breakage underneath my hair. I do often go in to get a trim which can vary from 1-4 inches just depending on how my ends look each time, Ive tried to go to many different places whether that means the fancy boutiques or just the simple corporate places like super cuts or even a beauty school. I've talked with every one about my breakage under my hair and they look at me like I'm nuts they just always says my hair looks great. I know it's not though I get really bad knots almost mats in my hair on the underneath part. I'm pretty sure it's from my vest at work since I've never had this issues since I've started working at this place with the vest, its definitely on the more abrasive side of materials. I've tried my hair up and down and side to side and I still have the breakage problem but it's really only the underneath, so I want hair product suggestions literally everything from shampoos, oilsz brush, literally everything. I'd love to know your opinions and favorite things about the products where to get them when to use them just all the above! Please and thank you 🙏

For some more information about my hair: I have mid back length thick straight brown hair. I had strands of the crown bleached and dyed about 4 years ago and then I dyed the bleached parts brown 3 years ago and haven't touched it from then on. I rarely ever hot style or even really use a blow-dryer on it, I usually don't brush my hair wet, I only use the Wet Brush brand for combs and brushes and I use soft blush scrunchies to pull my hair back or a big claw clip to put it up and every now n then I use a fabric hair tie that has the very thin elastic so they stretch out after one or two use. I sleep with satin pillow cases and use a satin bonnet.

Hair Products suggestions


i have thick indian hair down to my butt. i gave up a long time ago trying to find/use claw clips that would actually hold all my hair up, even with the biggest claw clip I could find it will only hold my hair if I gather it into a low ponytail, there is no way I can twist my hair up and claw clip it. i mostly put my hair in a bun when I need to shower or a braid when I oil my scalp, but I have sensory issues and don't wanna deal with my hair on my neck/unraveling all the time.

[i recently bought these hair pins](https://www.amazon.com/HYFEEL-French-Shaped-Chignon-Accessories/dp/B0CLRWZ2VR/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?crid=2E6XMF25KJGF6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.DQIRzIFufYWu5-cbiaMXldwGam31mQLH8QRZhq_q9Ya9YPJFIqoqPnJR39AYXyVZ94efJFYpuqgHjwQk3J7cFhZz13eHag3VAfiV-vhjXWmorZIgeMjN4RREZUMf_f86x1Y-j3B8iFM3UigyPuzaV_t_IWtbd1jN9VOZvPvjr0RrfifEVbPw4-ufpUCf_AJ4Tex5zDJtSHzlQOghE7m6jC_T3nzFSe9TxhaSk1Ad3LMQEZmvrSMmIOvRPZUnVWvbAppK2t9q7L4Da0hWxYHEc4tV6Nt4aEOsdf6HE1FJDWs.EwIU4KuE-xZW_6pB3HnYypO1_PPo-9f-ipJYXrxzdmE&dib_tag=se&keywords=hair+pins+for+thick+hair+extra+hold&qid=1733430909&sprefix=hair+pins+for+thick%2Caps%2C174&sr=8-3-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1) so I can put my hair up in a french twist - they work, and I need to re-do it like 5 times to get it to stay put but it will eventually fall out a couple hours later. i saw some other ones that are shaped wavy which might add some friction and security to my hair, which I plan on trying

need recommendations! TIA

Long/thick haired people - what do you use to clip your hair up instead of claw clips?


I have long  straight  medium thick hair. The waviness is from claw clip. Am i a type 1b?

What's my hair type?


I have waist length wavy hair that is decently thick. I had bangs about a year and a half ago that are now gone out just past my chin, but the rest of my hair is one length. I want to cut face framing layers, but can’t get it right on my own, but hairstylist always cut too much off or try to thin out my hair. Is there a way of asking them to just cut the front pieces? Or is there a way y’all recommend to blend the 2 lengths better? The grown out bangs are also super straight when the rest of my hair is wavy and it looks weird, like clip in pieces. Thank you!

fave framing layers question


So within the last year and a half I've had a lot (I'm probably exaggerating, but it's a lot to me) of hair loss. My hair is still thick but I still see the changes. A year ago I went to India and got lice from one of my husband's cousins really bad, and I wasn't told until after I visited them. I delusionally did everything natural I could think of to prevent/get rid of them but it didn't work.

When I got back I had to do 3 lice treatments to get rid of them completely. I thought I was in the clear but for the next 6 months, I was losing hair like crazy because of the chemicals in the treatment and then because I was so stressed out about it, I lost even more. After a while it wasn't quite as bad but I'm still losing more than what is normal. Like I brush my hair and there's a massive hair ball when I'm done, and it just makes me cry. I love my hair, I've been growing it out since I was 14 and my mom let me do what I want with it. It was halfway down my butt before but when I had lice, I cut 8 inches off. Since then, It's grown about 6 inches but the ends are pretty thinned out now and I'm way overdo for a cut.

PLEASE give me recommendations on what I can do to promote growth and if I can regain my thickness, from shampoo to hair oils, anything. I've been looking for a new shampoo to use that's more natural. I was thinking about getting a nettle/rosemary shampoo. Hell I've even been thinking of getting a derma stamp and stamp microneedling. My hair is very fine, but thick and a little wavy. I've never dyed my hair and have only used a hair straightener 5 times in the last 6-7 years. I don't even use hair ties unless I'm braiding my hair, I use a little clip to keep my bun in place.

Recommendations


So I love the look of a bow in my hair but how are we putting these in?
Currently, I put top half of my hair into a ponytail and then clip the bow at the top of the hair tie.
But I feel like there should be a better way???
My hair is super thick so it wouldn’t be able to be held in just the clip.

Bows!


Sorry this will be a novel. I just want to share my hair woes with a group of people who understand that it’s more than “just hair that will grow back” because I feel like I lost something important to me. I’m 30 and I’ve only had good hair for the last 5/6 years of my life, with the last 4 years being what I would consider “long”. It wasn’t until 2021 that I had to start getting haircuts because I felt my hair was growing too long - previously, I had to get haircuts to get rid of damage/cut out bad layers.

I spent so much time and money on my hair, keeping it long, and maintaining health while colored/lightened.

Last month, I went in for a haircut at 2 weeks postpartum and went with a different stylist due to my schedule, a mistake I’ll never repeat. I asked to cut off 1.5 inches, and to *touch up* the existing light layers I already had. I showed her a photo, made sure we were on the same page about the very light layers which I said should be “barely visible”. I told her I had grown out chunky layers in the past and don’t like layers that are too thick or short.

I don’t even have photos of the choppy, uneven, short layers she left my hair extremely thinned out with. I had to go back to the salon to correct her cut 3 different times, with a toddler and newborn at home. As you can kind of see in the last photo, I even had to get curtain bangs to fix the shortest layer, which was cut almost 4 inches across horizontally just below my chin. I wear those pushed to the side now.

I’ve been trying to tell myself that it’ll look great in a few months but realistically I have 1-2 years before all the chunky angles are gone. I’m hiding them with Bobby pins in pic #5. With curtain bangs, short hair, angles, and hair that’s been lightened, I feel sort of Kate Gosselin-adjacent with this haircut. It takes a lot of maintenance, and the shortest layers won’t even go in a claw clip anymore.

It’s been a month and I haven’t yet gotten used to it :/

Missing my long hair today. Had to cut off 6” last month to fix a bad cut.


I have thick hair that reaches past my butt, and my husband has super thick curly hair past his shoulders. We both use claw clips to keep our hair up in the shower, and I also use them for clipping my hair up under my bonnet to sleep. I try to buy the sturdiest ones at the store (department stores, Ross, Amazon) and none have lasted longer than a month. The claws snap off and I find them in the sheets, in my hoodie, and in the shower drain. I'm FED UP and would have NO problems dropping $40 on a single large claw clip if it would only last! Stainless steel or something maybe.... I am sick of the waste :(

Where can I buy claw clips that WON'T snap teeth willy-nilly?


My favorite claw clip broke. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Does anyone have good recommendations for claw clips for thick/long hair? TIA

Claw clips


I really like this scrunchie, but my hair color is a bit darker than hers. Do you think it would still suit me?

Would it still suit me if my hair is darker?


Hi folks,

I have butt length hair and usually wear it in a hair stick bun/Nautilus or in a scrunchie bun and that works really well for me. I just feel like my scalp needs a little break from the heat buildup that always occurs between bun and scalp when I sweat in the currently very warm weather. I already alternate the position of the bun (higher up some days, very low on others) but it doesn't help enough. I need alternatives, please help.

What I tried so far:

one or two dutch braids (I can't french braid on myself). I can only do this when hair is freshly washed and only on days where my chronic illness lets me - around every two weeks? A single dutch braid still has a little bit of heat buildup. I also tried regular braid/s just at the nape of my neck, which works fine. But the issue with all my braids, dutch or regular, is that they rub on my shoulders and shirt and that has caused so much breakage. So no leaving it dangling down to my shoulders or lower.

Claw clipping hair or braid up: doesn't work for me, I have pin straight super slippery hair and I would also have to fold the braid in 3 and my claw clip (the biggest I could find) already has trouble holding two layers, 3 won't stay up for long.

Folding the hair or braid and just leave the loops hanging: sooner or later strands will fall out.

Wearing it open: tangles super quick, annoys the hell out of me, gets stuck in my wheelchairs handles, handlefasteners and the velcro.

Regular ponytail: pulls on my scalp uncomfortably. Tolerable heat buildup but hair still gets stuck in places or if braided still rubs on my clothing.

Wrapping it around my neck like a scarf: hate this but it works. I have the skin reddening from this and everything gets sweaty.

Please help me find a way that's better.

Bun alternatives


I’m at the gym 4x a week and my hair is WET after. I do a high pony tail and then wrap it in a bun as I cannot stand hair touching me while working out. I only wash every 4/5 days.

Even tho I sweat a tonne my hair isn’t greasy, it’s actually quite dry. I brush it. I don’t do product, or use heat of any kind. Always air dry. Sometimes I’ll do some leave in conditioner post shower. I do a scalp oil every few weeks, then I do a double shampoo and a really good moisturizing conditioner.

I do a loose braid with a silk scrunchie and a silk bonnet for sleep.

I welcome ALL recommendations. I used to use hair dressers oil on the ends but backed off and haven’t used it for years. What are we doing to help the ends? I get a trim every 3 months or so to keep it clean plus to thin it out otherwise the weight of the hair is insane.

How are we protecting the ends post gym?


I have thin, fine hair and keep it braided most of the time. I use a silk scrunchie at the end but my ends are thin so it’s kind of annoying to wrap it so many times. I got these small cotton ones but they were tangling. Any suggestions?

Hair Ties for Thin Ends


Long story short: I'm a young and very recent widow, my husband loved my hair, on the day I buried him I saw sharp scissors and I cut off the lock of hair he liked to touch the most and put it in his casket pillow next to him. To be fair to myself, it looked very pretty there, I tied it with a cream lace ribbon, and it made lots of people cry when they realized what it was because I am known (and blessed) for having great hair.

The pictures should tell the story themselves (sorry no recent fluff pictures, just me waking up after a night with a satin scrunchie)... I look crazy with my hair up now. I call it my tuft, and I have zero regrets, but I am also wondering what I'm going to have to do to make this blend in. Advice, style recommendations? I'm not going to cut the rest of my hair off but I'm happy to attempt to blend it in somehow. So far I've just been using a pin and tucking it in.

Well dang.


After & before!!! I grew this out from a buzzcut and I didn’t realize how much I missed my mane <3 My goal is waist length. The first pic is day 2 hair.

Routine:
Wash and condition every 4-5 days with Maui Moisture (purple or blue bottles)

Lush Supermilk leave-in conditioner on mid lengths and ends after every wash

Lush Salt spray on day 3 or 4

Wet in shower every morning, wide tooth comb, scrunch, air dry :) Gentle brushing at night and only use silk scrunchie

5 months of progress :))


Routine:
• No hair dye ever.
• No leave-in hair products.
• I only brush my hair once, after washing.
• I sleep with my hair in a bun using a satin scrunchie.
• I only use Giovanni 50:50 Balanced™ Hydrating-Clarifying Shampoo and Conditioner.
• I blow-dry my hair only on special occasions, about once every couple of months.
• I wash my hair 1-2 times a week.
• I usually wear a hat on sunny days.

My hair texture on day of washing vs. 5 days after washing


kind of a nothing post but in the process of growing my hair out and struggling to find ways of keeping it up, love ponytails but hate how heavy they feel with a scrunchie, tried a banana clip for the first time and it feels less heavy! def recommend for all my long hair girlies

Banana clips are superior


found the best way to protect hair throughout the day from dryness and breakage. I love silk bonnets and wanted that silk affect for day to day styles. Made my own ribbon and scrunchie and I am loving doing it everyday. I just Bobby pin the ribbon on top of my head and then add it to one section and just braid as normal. Then at the end wrap the ribbon around end tightly then tie with silk scrunchie. Fell in love with making the ribbons and scrunchies and I have started an Etsy shop and tiktok.  Anyone else do styles like this with a silk ribbon, what is your favourite protective style?

Silk protective style


My ponytail gets progressively looser and falls out every run.. I end up having to re-do it every time. I am looping the scrunchie as tight as it goes.

Does anyone have a specific kind of hair tie that stays put? I’ve seen ones with rubber grips, but would like to avoid anything damaging / that may rip my hair out..

My hair is down to my waist and is medium / fine texture.

If anyone has a miracle scrunchie brand, or has hairstyle recommendations that will stay put for miles, please let me know. Any advice is appreciated 🙏🏻

Runners - what hair ties do you use? Or how to style?


Hi everyone! Hoping to get some tips on how you like to secure your braided buns. I'm extremely tender headed so even though my hair is "short" for this community (just past BSL) I'm hitting a point I can't do ponytails or buns with an elastic or scrunchie anymore (only a topknot with mini claw clips) even doing a braid from a ponytail and making it into a bun is too much- my scalp still somehow knows the elastic is there 😅 hair forks and sticks are okay with an elastic but not super secure on me without them as I have fine slippery 2a hair. I \*can\* use them but I know I'll have to re-do my hair multiple times. I've got sticks, forks, flexi clips, spin pins, and mini claw clips (like the super small kind) at my disposal. Bobby pins and U shaped ballerina pins are out as they immediately slide out of my hair.

I was thinking of trying spin pins combined with the mini claw clips?? That's how I have my topknot today (albeit with an elastic also...) and it seems to be holding well. Also, do you guys like to do your braided buns from an English, French, or Dutch braid? Appreciate all advice I'm really trying to minimize elastic/scrunchie use at this point as I'm getting really tired of tension headaches.

Tell me how you do and secure your braided buns please!


Side note! I really love the definition in my lower hair today!!! but I also thought this was a great picture to demonstrate the question I have as well ..

I’ll explain my current routine. I wash my hair every 2–3 days. After washing, I condition again with argan oil and then braid my hair.

Right now I don’t know how to braid starting from the back of my head, so what I usually do is tie my hair into a ponytail with a scrunchie and then start braiding from the scrunchie downward. This tends to give me really nice curl definition toward the bottom of my hair.

However, the top part of my hair doesn’t get the same definition. As you can see in the photo, the top looks flatter and a bit unstructured, while the bottom has much more defined curls. Even though the lower half of my hair curls nicely, the difference between the top and bottom can make the overall look seem a little messy.

My current strategy for preventing tangles is to keep my hair in a braid, since my hair is very long and curly and it tangles easily. Braiding has been the easiest way for me to keep it manageable without damaging it.

I’m wondering what I can do to improve the definition at the top while still keeping my hair tied most of the time. I don’t use any styling products and I don’t apply heat to my hair.

How do I define the top of hair?


I buzzed my hair off 3 years ago due to alopecia and bleach damage. It felt like forever but my hair hasn’t been this long in 15 years! I’ll be going for my first trim in a year next week!

My routine: shampoo and conditioner- L’Oréal glossing whenever my hair feels dirty. 1-2 times a week.

Ouia leave in and oil right out of the shower and I don’t do anything to it in between. I typically keep it in a silk scrunchie in a low bun. I sleep with a silk pillow case and silk turban

I think I finally hit waist length!


I tried to get the photos lined up but it was tricky.

Routine: Wash 2x per week with Trader Joe’s Moisture Shampoo and Conditioner. Use LUS wavy on wet hair, air dry or minor cool blow drying. Heartless curls using silk scrunchie. Dust ends every 6 months.

200 Days and 1 small trim later


Most posts about heatless curls gloss over the details that actually matter and I wasted months getting bad results before figuring out what was wrong, so maybe this saves someone the frustration.

My hair is past shoulders, fine side. Early attempts were all weird crimps and curls that fell out by noon. The problems: wrapping too tight, hair too damp, ends not secured properly. Fixing those things is what made it actually work.

My routine now is wash in the evening, air dry to about 90% (slightly cool to touch but not wet at all), wrap sections around the satin rod starting from front to back, pin ends with the scrunchie. Sleep. In the morning unravel slowly, then DON'T touch for about ten minutes. Seriously. If you start separating immediately the curls drop. After ten minutes, gentle finger separation, light hairspray if I want extra hold.

Curls last about two days, sleeping in a loose bun the second night preserves shape. And day two hair actually wraps better than freshly washed, something about the natural oils giving grip.

My ends have way less breakage compared to when I was heat styling every other day, which is the part I didn't expect to care about but now really appreciate.

how to get heatless curls with a satin rod overnight


Hi! I’ve been lurking this sub for about 5 years whilst my hair grows back from 10+ years of alopecia universalis!

Last pic is 2021 - 2026

I’m so grateful to have long hair again but it’s starting to look dry and frizzy around the mid lengths to ends. I think I have a combo of 2A and 2B hair but the texture isn’t uniform all over after it grew back and gets really tangly so I usually just rough dry and straighten it.

I have an appointment booked next month for a cut, I was thinking some face framing with long round layers but I want to keep the length and probably blunt the ends since I love the thickness. How many inches off does my hair need? I know I’m beyond search and destroy at this point and currently only get a 0.5inch once a year.

My current routine is: (open to improvements and suggestions)

Double shampoo hair with 1. Whatever there is laying about 2. Paul Mitchell clarifying shampoo

Condition with Pureology smooth perfection conditioner

Wrap in microfibre towel but don’t rub

Redken One united multi benefit leave in

Olaplex 7 oil

Brush whilst damp

Rough dry (guilty of using medium-hot setting)

Straighten

Moroccanoil treatment oil on mid lengths to ends

I do an olaplex 3 treatment every 6-8 weeks.

I sleep with my hair twisted in to a loose bun at night with a satin scrunchie and I live in a chalky hard water area.

Some days I don’t brush my hair but when I do I use a tangle teezer or a wide tooth comb. It’s undyed/not chemically bleached but has lightened in the sun.

Victory / Before & after / Help!!


Just received spin pins that I ordered and I’m quite excited to try them out! I plan to do the milkmaid hairstyle, I never had luck with it staying secure with clips/bobby pins. As well as buns since using a scrunchie would eventually tug at my scalp. What other hairstyles do you guys do? If you have pictures that would be great :)

Spin pin hairstyles?


I'm 5 months postpartum, my hair has recently stopped shedding. I trimmed off maybe two inches, it's freshly washed and I lightly oiled the ends with coconut oil (it's still a little damp in these photos). I wash my hair once a week, it doesn't really get oily either, I'm mainly refreshing my dry scalp (my entire body has a tendency to get dry). I soak my hair for half an hour before washing in aloe+conditioner+baking soda+(recently tried an egg for protein), my hair tends to get a weird sticky film when I don't use the baking soda. I'm not exactly sure what the last shampoo and conditioner I used was called some sort of botanical kind, it had small lettering and a dark green bottle. I've switched to a local shampoo bar that's been working surprisingly well and I still have a large jar of rustic strength conditioner, but plan to try the local conditioner bar as well. I would like to try henna to see if it could add strength to my hair, and I would like to get a silk bonnet (what do you guy's think about mulberry silk?) for nights but I haven't gotten it yet. I typically keep my hair in a coiled loose bun with a satin scrunchie, I'm going to be going out this weekend to hunt for the perfect stick to turn into a nice hairstick (do you sleep in a hairstick??? I used to braid, but securing the ends caused all sorts of split ends). I only comb my hair with a wide tooth hair pick. I'm taking my prenatals still along with extra iron and collagen.

my hair keeps breaking with my daily detangling, I just take it down work slowly from ends to roots and then put it back up. no toddler or baby hands get the opportunity to yank it out either. the bright side of the breakage is my hair can be longer and thicker if I just figure out how to keep my hair from breaking while detangling. I've also been trying to keep waste to a minimum, we don't have recycling so I feel guilty about unnecessary bottles

Hair breakage and thin stands


These were taken on the first of January for my 2026 hair journey. It’s maybe 2-3 days unwashed in this photo.

Right now my routine consists of washing hair 2x/week. Once with a moisturizing shampoo, the other with olaplex steps as protein.

I have been trying to keep up with S&D on the ends, but I worry about breakage. I’ve been trying to keep it in a braid with a silk scrunchie and pillow case but I worry about keeping it in the same spot everyday. Any advice welcomed!

Any advice on growing out damaged hair?


I am looking to reduce breakage and damage. I have very fine hair that is down to almost my waist but I noticed that I am losing a lot of hair in the shower and when I brush it.

The night of washing my hair I will put jaboba oil on my roots/ends. I started washing my hair only once a week and then I throw it in a towel to dry/air dry. After, I put olaplex N9 bond protector and then olaplex N6 bond smoother in my hair. Once it’s about 70% dry I will put it in a side braid and then every night before bed I will put renewing argan oil of morocco extra strength penetrating oil in my hair and then re braid it. My hair knots easily so I don’t wear it down every day but when I put it up I only use a satin scrunchie for a low pony/bun or a claw clip.

So here are my questions…Am I better off blowing drying it once a week after I shower instead of braiding it when it’s damp? Are there any better protective hairstyles to wear to bed to prevent breakage? Any general tips to help me shed less? What are your hair care routines that have been working for you? Any advice/tips is greatly appreciated 😊

I need advice on how to reduce breakage!


I have straight hair, I mostly wear them in a braid but in the morning they’re wavy.

Sometimes I put them in a bun, then it’s a more pretty wavy style but I feel like it’s bad for my hair, I’m afraid that they break. And I don’t like the feeling of it when I’m sleeping, I’m tall and have a small bed, if it’s on top of my head it minimises my space. I also use a silk scrunchie.

I have a silk head cap, but it’s too big for my head, I have to tie it together with a hair tie but if it’s not tight enough it will fall of my head at night, and if it’s too tight it leaves imprints on my forehead I don’t think that’s good lol. And I think I get pimples on my forehead from it.

I sometimes wear a thick sock in my hair, but that’s also really uncomfortable.

Hoy do you do your hair, so it won’t break be straight or not weird wavy and is comfortable?

Btw English is not my first language so sorry for any mistakes

How do you sleep with your hair?