As a fellow long-haired person, I sympathize with everyone who shared stories of hairstylists who went scissor happy. I also have my fair share of those stories: from cutting my hip-length hair to a mullet at my shoulders, to cutting six inches when I was comfortable with one inch. Right now my hair is down to my belly-button and am planning on growing it out even longer.

I also have noticed patterns of how stylists react with your hair to consider as red flags. I went to beauty school, and have training on cutting/coloring hair with a state board license (USA), so I understand the mindset of a hairstylist.

For example, today I went to a local hair salon to buy some hair products. I've never had my hair cut or colored here. The owner remarks on how long my hair is and notices it is in a straight blunt cut and my hair is wavy/curly. I said I preferred my hair in a blunt cut because layers make my hair poof out. She remarked louder, with her arms in the air, how much more enhanced my curls would look if I put in long layers. I said no thank you, paid for my products, and left the salon.

In this example, a stylist who dismisses your haircut preferences is not one you want to work with. This stylist decided what would "look better" for my hair than what I am comfortable with.

You want to think of hairstylists as a business partnership, and not a service provider. Would you want to work with someone who dismisses you and leads as though they know better than you?

Here are some other red flags to watch out for:

* The stylist charges you more for having long hair.
   * Quality stylists, who've devoted years of extended training and workshops in haircutting, are known to charge you more for their experience than for the length of your hair. The best stylists, in my experience, never add a $10 - $15 charge for a trim. Alternatively, the stylist charges you by the hour, instead of focusing on the length of your hair as the culprit for charging more.
* The stylist makes comments about your hair.
   * By comments, I do not mean outright rude ones. These comments are the subtle ones that you might let slip. Comments such as "Did you know you have so much hair?", "What do you do with all that hair?", "Have you thought about donating your hair?" might tell you that the stylist is not prepared to handle your length.
* The stylist goes with what you say and not give their advice.
   * Stylists absolutely want to please their clients. Yet, if you ask for a certain style, and you might not have the appropriate texture to handle such a cut, a stylist should not blindly do what you tell them. They should give their own expert opinion, and even refuse if they know it will only hurt you in the end. This also goes for color services. If you hair is compromised, it is for the best that the stylist gives their opinion or refuse service.
* The stylist thinks they know better than you.
   * Applies only to when you aren't comfortable with the style offered in consultation. Similar to my example story, you ask for one style and they offer a different one that you are not comfortable with, only move forward with the stylist touching your hair if they offer a style you can see yourself with. Any stylist that badgers you to get a style you're not comfortable with done, you should walk out.
* The stylist is taking longer than usual to cut.
   * I once had a haircut where I thought the stylist finished the blunt trim at the ends of my hair, per my request. I tried to stand up, then she sat me back down, and continued cutting. I blindly allowed her because I thought she is an expert. In my case, I should've asked why she needed to sit me back down if we were done. Then I knew, and saw the poofy layers I never asked for. Should a stylist take longer than your normal, speak up. If the stylist is transparent with you and say they aren't done, but tell you what they are working on, let them continue. If they are working through something not discussed in your consultation, stop the cut from continuing.

After all these red flags, you might ask, "We did a thorough consultation, the stylist showed me how much I'm comfortable cutting off, and my hair is still botched!" For that, I tell you what the stylist must have when you initially meet:

* And that is \*\*respect\*\*. A stylist should treat you with profession and grace when approaching your hair. Would the stylist say the same to someone with shorter hair? Or treat them like a normal, without subtle comments? Wouldn't you want that same respect, and not paraded around the salon like a sideshow? (A stylist once had me walk to each stylist at the salon to show off my hair and have them touch the length. Would they do this to another person with shorter hair?)

As for how this operates like a business partnership: you are allowing the stylist to treat your hair in exchange for your money. Haircuts can also be pricey, depending on your region. You should think about what it takes to part ways with how much you pay someone to work on your hair. You have the ultimate power here, as you can choose whoever you want to see. Be very careful and thorough about who you let touch your hair.

What are some other red flags you've experienced to share here?

Hair Stylist Red Flags - What to look for when finding a stylist


Always had frizzy poofy straw like hair. Started following a curly routine. Finally starting to love my hair.This wash day has been the best so far(in the picture is day 2 hair, i've covered the bg for privacy). I used to never leave my hair down due to extremely straw like and frizzy hair. Since starting cg, for the first time in my life, I'm leaving my hair open. I've always wanted to wear my hair open like other women, and finally I'm able to live that dream. And I feel like I look great with my hair down nowadays as well.

I have naturally black (or very very dark brown) curly hair. I almost never use heat. Virgin hair, no color or treatments done ever.
I have low porosity, moderately thick, coarse, dry and wiry hair.
When curly it ranges from barely waist length to past my waist depending upon the shrinkage. When wet/straight, it is goes past my butt.

My routine:
1. Before washing I apply a hair oil (either almond based or coconut based) an hour before I shampoo. If I have the time, I might do overnight oiling (I know many people advice against this, but I've seen that If I just leave oil in my hair and not necessarily the scalp for 7+ hours, my hair is just so much softer and manageable. Oiling this way also helps with shrinkage and somehow my hair coils up a bit more when I do this). Recently I've been using a hair oil prepared by this lady at her home, which she prepares by boiling coconut oil with ayurvedic herbs (a lot of traditional ayurvedic hair oils are prepared this way). I'm thinking of adding some rosemary essential oil to this oil, as I've  been wanting to incorporate rosemary oil into my routine.

2. I apply conditioner before shampoo. I've found that for some reason my hair does not like conditioner when applied after my shampoo. I use requil murumuru butter conditioner. It has good slip and the only reason I use conditioner is to detangle my hair. I apply just enough to help me detangle. Once I've detangled I immediately  shampoo.

3. The shampoo I use really helps in forming curl clumps. It's called dhathri deedhi herbal shampoo. I don't know if this shampoo is ch approved, but that doesn't bother me because I'm not following a super strict cg routine. This shampoo is cheap, gentle and I feel like it removes frizz to an extent and helps in forming frizz free clumps. If I use a conditioner after this, I feel like the Conditioner ruins the lovely frizz free clumps formed by the shampoo.

4. Next onto dripping wet hair, I apply almost 3 nickel sized dollops of shea moisture jamaican black castor oil leave in conditioner using a praying hands motion.

5.  Next I apply 2-3 nickel sized dollops of cantu curl activator cream after emulsifying it by adding some water and rubbing my hands together.

6. Next I apply Umberto Giannini scrunching jelly (3 large dollops). I add more water to my hair if needed.

7. After this I scrunch for about 5-10 mins. I do not use any brushes for curl clumps formation or definition. I might try in the future, but I have a feeling my hair remains best when I don't mess with it too much.
Then I plop my hair in an old t shirt for 2 hours and then air dry (takes almost a day to completely dry)

I find that my curls can go upto 4 days without needing a wash. I protect my curls at night using a poly satin bonnet or a large mulberry silk satin scarf. I also use loreal elnett hair spray if I go out, esp on windy days. I exclusively use poly satin and mulberry silk satin scrunchies if I have to tie my hair.

I actually want to grow my hair longer.ig I want to reach a length where my curls when they curl up reach past my butt.

Waist length natural curly black hair! Been following cg for 3 weeks and this wash day was good. Day 2 curls!


I can use either cream or spray leave in without much trouble, but lately I've shed some extra hair. I'm 2 inches from BSL aiming for waist which will likely take about a year ideally. Took 2 years to go from pixie to armpit and that was w/o conditioner.

Could combing my conditioner through my mids in the shower be my problem? I shampoo with my finger pads

Im horrible at sticking with a routine when I try a new product category I've never used in the first place, so firstly Im asking if messing with my routine too much or combing while in the shower might be causing it?

Routine from right before my cut was alright, but used too much product every day.
I bought a lighter leave in spray sans protein, but wonder if I just didn't give it enough time. I try to go every 3 days 2x a week when I used to go 2 days, 3 days, then 2 again.

 My cream leave in and oil has saved my ends when I got an amateur 1.5 inch blunt trim by my mom in late July- they will dry out and split if I dont, so I know that works and the current conditioner has so much slip. None of the products leave a residue once it's dry. I'm trying to find one that is the right viscosity that de-frizzes my mids enough but can still be easily rinsed out- they frizz up easily whether I diffuse or not til the next day.

I don't style my hair much aside from a braid or two and loose ponytail a night or two a week, use no heat and a satin bonnet and pillowcase. I do have trouble kee

So what do y'all think is most likely? Combing the conditioner while in the shower, the new spray leave in, piddling with the routine, or something else like putting my hair in a hair claw? Should I go back to my wash routine before my trim?

A few questions concerning my wavy hair and shedding


Are invisibobble scrunchies better than regular scrunchies? Do they hold better (specifically at the end of braids) than a regular one? Do they slip out of the hair? I thought about caving and buying one because scrunchies always slip out of my hair but I'm just trying to figure out if they are BS first

Are invisibobble scrunchies any good?


I was reading a post on this subreddit that mentioned the elastic type hair ties I’ve used are more prone to pulling out hair that’s others (certainly an issue I’ve noticed), and people were recommending the silky ties/scrunchies as a superior alternative.

I have noticed a reducing in the hairs coming away with the ties when I remove it later, but I’m finding that if I’m using it for a simple ponytail, that it will slip down more easily. I can’t twist it round another time. It’s are much as I can do.  Any on got any advice so that I don’t feel like I’m having to adjust and tighten it every 10 mins?

Thanks

Help with slipping silk scrunchies


I have bsl length hair now and i have a habit of pulling it in my sleep. Like it ends up underneath me and i will sleep with my head in a weird position which makes my neck stiff in the morning. I usually use a scrunchie to put it on a ponytail, and then it is now long enough that the ponytail gets caught under my side or something. Plus, the scrunchie is too loose and falls out. I feel like a silk scrunchie would slip down even worse. What do you guys do? I'm mostly a side sleeper. I've also tried the bun on the top of my head but that weight doesn't work out too well for my neck.

sleeping advice?


I have thick 2A/2B type hair.

When my hair is wet in the shower, it gets VERY tangly and "sticky" -- no matter how well I have detangled and brushed it while dry, and then with a careful wide-tooth comb detangling session once it's wet.

I tend to get a lot of breakage as my wet hair snarls up and I'm applying my shampoo lather.

Is there a lightweight "pre-shampoo" detangling product out there to give my wet hair some slip?

Doing a pre-'poo conditioner just makes my hair too weighed down and greasy to get properly clean. Hoping there's some kind of serum or rinse I could use instead.

Detangling product for in the shower BEFORE shampooing?


Hello! I’ve noticed that since I started hormonal birth control (sorry if that’s TMI) my hair has thinned considerably and lost a lot of it’s natural curl. I’ve always had very thick, very curly hair, the kind of thick hair that needed special hair ties or they’d break, but now I can see scalp when I pull my hair into a pony (which is not often).

My hair grows very fast (I had a very short bob last January, and I’m now to the bottom of my shoulder blades) but I don’t want to grow it to my goal length if it’s going to be stringy and thin looking, but I’d really love to have my old hair back.

Things I’m already doing: curly hair routine, curl conditioner but only shampooing once or twice a week, jojoba oil pre wash, collagen supplements, biweekly rice water rinse, leave in conditioner, weekly strengthening masks, and trying to only do looseish French braids and similar protective styles. I previously had a curly cut so if I do a regular braid the shorter layers still slip out, but I do try to avoid tight ponytails and buns.

If anyone has any tips as to routines, supplements, products, or protective styles I would welcome absolutely any advice as to how I can combat my hormonal hair loss.

Thanks!

Hormonal Thinning Help


My hair is very long last my butt, I’ve been wanting to find a sleeping bonnet to help keep my hair from knotting when I sleep. I usually use scrunchies down the length of it but it’s making it hard to sleep. I’d prefer one that is adjustable/won’t easily slip off and breathable. I’ve read people recommend silk.

Can anyone recommend a sleeping bonnet?


Hey all! I've had bangs for a while, but now I'm working warehousing and stocking, and I'm not sure how to keep them out of my face while I grow them out for convenience. I have a bandana, but it slides off unless I use big clips to secure it (which I'm not a big fan of), the flat clips usually damage my hair, I stink at bobby pins, and cloth or plastic headbands either slip off or give me a headache. I thought about a beanie, but I'd worry that it might be damaging to wear every day, and I'm active so idk if it would make my head sweaty and itchy or not. As for the bulk of my hair, I usually find a bun or braid typically stays in just fine throughout the day, so I've got that covered.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Keeping my hair off of my face at work


Hi everyone, was hoping to get some input on protecting my hair at night. I have hip length straight/wavy thick hair. I am looking for help specifically with protecting my hair while also maintaining a straight hairstyle. I shower and blow dry in the evenings every other day. I am trying to avoid crimping it in braids or buns. Turbans and bonnets tend to slip off immediately, and I am prone to tension headaches so try to avoid anything too tight. I am also looking for recs regarding silk pillowcases. I know there’s got to be a solution out there! I am tired of my hair literally getting wrapped around my neck at night haha

How do you protect your straight hair when you sleep?


TLDR; do all the things.

After giving birth to our third, I most wanted to avoid postpartum hair loss. Even more so than postpartum depression. For me specifically PPD can be cured with hormone rebalance but with postpartum hair loss, once your hair’s done falling, it’ll still take months and months to grow it back.

So I researched a lot. Most things I found were overpriced products designed to work from one angle (topical, like some expensive and promising shampoo or internal, like vitamins). So I thought- let’s try both. Let’s try it all!

Sounds expensive! But there’s a way to incorporate these techniques to help salvage all that beautiful hair you grew while pregnant without buying into all the, frankly, crap.

With silicones I’m type 2A. When I use CGM I become a solid 2C. BSL, thin individual strands with relatively thick density. (Partly thanks to my hair care!) I strongly feel these incorporations to my routine have greatly lessened my postpartum hair fall. I wanted to pass along these helpful tips in case they may help save the hair and sanity of you or a loved one!

Discretionarily, obviously YMMV.

Nutrition

I’ve always continued with prenatal vitamins but after using the same brand for over 5 years I thought perhaps I should switch it up. So, instead of taking my usual One a Day Prenatal capsule, I now use a liquid multivitamin, Garden of Life Vitamin Code. Yes it’s disgusting but I mix it in with my organic juice cleanse I drink every day anyway so now I enjoy the taste. I also mix cod liver oil and maca powder (depending how late I’m the day it is, maca can give you a lot of energy!) in with this drink.

Additionally I commit to remaining hydrated throughout the day.

I also take a B vitamin complex, liquid vitamin D, and magnesium. I also am a lover and daily drinker of raw milk.

Hair Treatment

I typically wash every 2-3 days. I tried CGM and loved the results but once my hair fall began around 2.5 months postpartum, I decided to switch back to silicones because I wanted all the slip I could get to avoid any potential breakage because of how silk-like my fine textured hair is.

Before washing I use oils and massage my scalp firmly but gently, deep tissue but avoiding tangling my hair. Approximately every other wash I also apply a homemade leave in with 4 parts Garnier papaya hair treat 3 in 1, one part aloe vera and one part honey.

Additionally I use the cheap Vo5 clarifying shampoo about once every 3 weeks.

Before my shower I massage the oils (sometimes with my head upside down) for about 10 minutes. The oil mixture includes castor, rosemary, and peppermint. If I’m using my leave in I go ahead and massage that onto my scalp too.

When I shampoo I add a tsp. of aloe vera (yes, again) and a tsp. of my oil mix to the shampoo in my palm, mix those together, then wash my hair like normal.

Admittedly I use a lot of conditioner, often more than one type and often in more than one application. I like hot showers and if I feel too much conditioner was rinsed out I’ll just condition again, heavily focusing on my ends and working my way up toward my head. I like feeling that some conditioner got left in my hair.

After my shower I gently squeeze and pat dry with a cotton shirt. I’m thinking I’ll have even better results from a microfiber towel and may switch soon. I let it air dry. I never use heat. I comb with a wide tooth comb and work my way to finer combs if I feel like it.

Because I wash my hair relatively frequently, I get oily quick so on days 2+ I’ll typically put my hair in a protective style, my favorite being Dutch braid because it’s easy for me to do on myself and I like the way it looks.

A couple pillows on our bed have satin cases so I sleep on those sometimes but not every night.

I purchased nylon hair ties (think pantyhose material), and I love those for tying my hair up. No snag, they’re very gentle yet have surprisingly decent grip.

Also, when my hair is dry I add 1-2 but no more! drops of oil to the very ends of my tips. This has helped with avoiding breakage tremendously!

I can’t think of anything else right now but feel free to ask for any further clarification!

I just know I would have appreciated someone having gifted me this information a pregnancy or two ago. But through 3 pregnancies and experiencing it all and trial and error I hope these tips will benefit you! It’s certainly not perfect but I used to lose hair in clumps by the handful, and these applications have reduced my dreaded postpartum hair shed to where I’m losing the normal amount I would before getting pregnant.

Thank you for coming to my head talk!

POSTPARTUM HAIR LOSS CURE(ISH).


I’m looking for a conditioner with a lot of slip to it. My hair is mid- back length and very thick and highlighted. It seems to like conditioner with some slip to it the best, or else it tangles! Any product recommendations? Thanks!

Slippery conditioner?


Hi all. I'm trying to move towards less plastic waste and generally being more sustainable. I've used shampoo bars in the past from Lush and they've always been great, but I have never found conditioner bars to be any good. I don't seem to get the slip I need to detangle my hair.

Can anyone recommend any conditioner bars that actually work and are good for taming and conditioning high porosity hair? I am in the UK.

I have bra strap length, 2C, high porosity hair that loves protein. Thanks!

conditioner bars that work?


Hello! It's very nice to meet all of you!

So, my hair is between tailbone and classic length right now. I have the sort of 'V' hemline (bulk of length stops just below hip). I'm sorry, I'm not totally sure what my hair type is exactly, but while my hair isn't pin straight, it isn't wavy or curly either. It's fine, but high density (My ponytails are like 5 inches around at the base lol).

Sooo, you can probably see where my conundrum is! My hair just can't stay up in updos! Even with Bobby pins, it tends to just lose its shape!

Tutorials are a challenge too! Not only is there not very many similar hair lengths (and I'm dumb so I tend to just error: 404 when I have to repeat a step or do something differently than them), but almost all of them require teasing and products!

I mean... Products, I understand. I just REALLY don't want to use a lot, don't have the budget for it anyways. Teasing though? Goodness gracious, I simply cannot do that! My hair has been through enough mistreatment from me bleaching it too much and not taking care of it! It's finally recovering, I'm not putting it through more!

So, what do? It's starting to warm up around here, and I want to make sure to have some styles good and ready to go! Thank you so much!

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Hair routine! (Still figuring it out, tbh)

- Shampoo once a week (unless it's too greasy before an event, I'll shower the night before then)
- Condition every day (though I do slip up on this)
- Only air dry hair, nothing else unless you count squeezing it
- Wait till hair is just damp, spray detangler into it. Use a pick to comb through it. Keep hair down or loosely braid until it's dry (or as a protective style before going to sleep)
- When dry, use boar bristle brush to smooth it out

(I'm sorry if it's overly descriptive, I have no idea what I'm doing lol. Also, sorry if formatting is weird, I'm on mobile.)

Edit: Grammar

Need ideas for updos!


Does anyone have any suggestions for what to use to secure long, thick hair? Bobby pins and berets don't do crap for me....I even bought the hard-core Bobby pins for thick hair and all they do is slip out.

My specific problem is when I do a side braid. All day I have to fix the hair on the opposite side of my braid because the shorter baby hairs slip out and look all crazy. I tried securing it in the back with the above mentioned items and it doesn't work for me....very frustrating.

Thanks

long/thick hair problems


Hi guys! If you sleep with a silk or satin turban or bonnet to protect your hair, what’s the best one you’ve found?

I’m on a journey to grow out my very damaged hair and I when I sleep I oil my ends and wear a satin turban style thing, but I’ve tried three different ones and they ALL slip off my head while I’m trying to sleep. I move around a lot.

Has anyone found a great one that stays on? Or just have a suggestion for a similar product?

Thank you!

**edited some autocorrect errors

satin sleep caps?


Hair bonnets for night time 😴....does it really help with reducing breakage / good for your hair? Does it stay on if you toss and turn? Any recommendations? I used a shower cap once or twice but it would slip off lol TIA 😊


Okay, so I'm finally just a few centimeters away from tailbone length. Yay!
My problem is that I always kept my hair down or in a side braid because I feel uncomfortable wearing buns and I'm not skilled at doing any fancier braid than the standard English one. Hairsticks also always slip out after the slightest movement.
Now the biggest problem is that, I work at an aquarium store. Not only does it get stiff and rough looking because I constantly get saltwater on it, but it also gets really nasty when it's time to unbox freshly imported animals. Imagine, a coral that's been shipped in a tiny bag from all across the world, sitting in its own waste for more than 24 hours. In comparison, a full baby diaper would be considered Chanel No 5. Yum. 😅
I just need something cute that keeps hair out of my face and doesn't put too much weight on my neck. It should be a hairstyle that lasts all day without me having to touch it up. Any ideas?

Hairstyles for work that aren't buns and prevent my hair from getting disgusting stuff on it?


Can anyone recommend me a comb headband that holds firmly, does not slip when rotating the head, and works for thick/puffy/curly hair? I am unsure where to look and would prefer a plastic/non-metal material.


My mom is always touching and commenting on my (waist length, 2a) hair even though she knows I hate it. She gets mad if I shy away or ask her to stop so talking to her is not an option. Living in quarantine with her really makes me want to cut all my hair off but I don't know if I'd regret it or not.

I tried putting my hair in a bun and covering it with a scarf today but it only takes minutes for it to slip out. I read that headbands can help with slippage but also that they can cause hair loss if worn too much.

If anyone has any suggestions for "ugly" (to a middle aged European mom) styles that don't show off length or do too much damage, or better ways to secure my slippery hair with a scarf, I would be grateful <3

Styles that will deter someone from touching or commenting on my hair?


I am starting work at a construction job and I need to keep my hair secured, safely, and it can't go up because of hard hats. My go-to is two braids. I used to use the small black rubber bands because they work well, but they're obviously very damaging.

How can I tie them off without ruining my ends?

Scrunchies will slip off soon as I start working, as will silk ties.

Open to other style suggestions, too.

Any ideas?

Should I oil the ends and then tie them with the usual bands? Will that help?

EDIT: Low buns at the back of my neck drive me absolutely insane. They work for so many people too!

Working a construction job: How to tie off my hair without damaging the ends?


Does anybody have any experience using silk hair ties either from silk Lily or SLIP?

Silk hair ties!


The main thing it has that's different from other clips is a frosted glass type texture so it is less likely to slip off hair yet doesn't cause terrible friction like rubber for example. It's also somewhat of an unusual size in between mini clip and larger ones.

It has a translucent color.

It seems like a simple thing but I can't find it anywhere. Anybody know the name or who makes it?

https://i.redd.it/26hrz1r38hn21.jpg

Can anyone identify this hair clip? I'm trying to find more of it.


Ok, I know most people on here have legit really long hair, but I feel like you must have it together as far as your "why" for having long hair. Mine is shoulder length, but that's pretty long for me. I used to be a pixie cut queen. It was the best hair I ever had, and I got so many compliments on it. I decided to grow it out about a year and a half ago. I want to explain why I made that decision, because it was my choice but now I want to reconsider. When I decided to grow it out, it was because of a man named Charlie. He and I were dating at the time and we were talking about getting married. I was my own stylist at the time, cutting my own hair whenever I needed/wanted to. He loved my hair and me. One time I was grilling him on long hair though, and he let it slip that he did think long hair was nice, and that he would like to see me with long hair if I wanted to grow it out. He would never have mentioned it if I hadn't asked him about it. He is not a controlling guy, and he just wanted me to be happy. Anyways, a few weeks went by of me thinking about that conversation. I remembered my childhood days of wearing my hair long and how much I hated it then. I had been wearing it short for so long that I had a complete transformation in my hair-dentity. I loved my hair and felt good about myself it it. I felt so much freer with it short. It was easy to care for and so healthy. No more split ends or frizz. I also loved Charlie a ton. I talked to my mom about it and she made some good points that got me really thinking about why Charlie would appreciate my hair long. I finally decided to stop cutting my hair and let it grow out when we secretly decided to get married. That was right at the end of August 2017. I didn't tell anyone about my decision for a while because I wanted to be able to change my mind. I didn't tell Charlie I was growing it out until about a month or two later when he mentioned that my hair was getting pretty long. I kept growing it out until January 2018, when Charlie officially proposed to me. It was about ear-length in our pictures from that day. We were engaged for four and a half months and were married in May, and my hair was about chin length in our wedding pictures. I am still growing it out now. My hair is long enough to go it a high pony now, and it's pretty curly. I have been really frustrated with my hair lately. I feel like my hair is a problem for me to solve, and I usually get a bad grade. I really miss my pixie cut. When I decided to grow it out, I thought I'd be able to handle it better now that I'm older and have more experience with hair. But I feel like I have reverted to 13 year old me, struggling to fix my hair in a way that looks good and won't give me a headache. I'm not into using heat on my hair, it just doesn't work very well and I'm not good at using the irons anyway. I want to cut my hair because I want to love it again. But I also feel like I'd be throwing away my hard work and even betraying my husband a little bit. I have told him that I kinda hate my hair long, and he told me to cut it if I wanted. He's been super sweet about it. If he told me to keep it long, I so would, but he doesn't boss me around like that. So it's up to me. Advice anyone?
TL;DR I used to have short hair and I grew it out for my husband. I hate my hair most days now and feel torn about cutting it. I loved my pixie cut, but I love my husband more. What should I do?

To cut or not to cut?


I am looking at the Slip one, which is like $85 at Nordstrom and wondering what is so special about it. Are they really that good? What other (cheaper) brands have you've used?

Silk pillowcase recommendations - are the pricey ones worth it?


Hi! this winter i figured out i had 2C-3A hair and have been lost trying to figure out a routine for me.
This is the best routine Ive yet to find that somewhat works on my hair— but i notice that when diffusing my hair falls into a 2B type wave (I think it’s the water dragging it down but I’m not sure how to correct that since I thought you’re not supposed to use a micro fiber towel 2 much or it will scrunch the product out). This routine gives a lot of volume in the back but its lack luster on the top and sides. And again it’ll dry in a wave that I know isn’t my full curl potential as it slowly falls into it b4 diffusing and only right after diffusing a section will it look curly again b4 returning to a slight wave. What i’ve been trying to do is diffuse on hot 15 sec and then cold as stated below which has marginally helped.

Another thing to note is i have very fine hair and I have found that section diffusing has brought out my curls more except significantly decreases the volume— but I might just be doing it wrong.

Any small tweaks or big change advice is SERIOUSLY appreciated and thanks for taking the time to read all this !!!😉😉

this is my current routine:

brush hair b4 shower
shampoo with shea moisture moisture boosting shampoo

flip hair upside down with Pantene The Multi-Tasked conditioner and brush in shower (make sure it’s completely smooth)

leave shower soaking wet

styling:

two sprays of leave in conditioner (prayer hands) Not your mothers leave-in

golf ball sized dollop of mousse (prayer hands) Not your mothers curl talk mousse

break up clumps to separate hair from scalp

make three sections

create small sections using define brush and shake, then scrunch to the root

scrunch hair with micro fiber towel once

go upright lifting roots gently with intertwined fingers and shake (separate clingy clumps)

do gel perpendicular to ground 2 pumps prayer hands (0.5 gel on roots) Innersense I Create Hold

scrunch hair with micro fiber towel 2 times

if it’s not giving the shape you want add a little mousse and a little gel

diffusing:

hover diffuse roots 5 min

pixie diffuse until 100% dry perpendicular to ground

diffuse on both sides pulling roots up (all layers including short ones) **hot 15 sec cold 15 sec hold 10 sec**
claw clip top section for volume
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use a little bit of oil and scrunch out cast when 100% dry and shake out upside down to
if any parts lost hold add a small amount of gel to hands and scrunch with gel

next day:
wrap with scrunchie 2x and place hair in front of bonnet over ears
reactivate with water + gel spray in the morning (separating into bottom and crown section)
add more gel if spots have lost hold
place claw clip at crown for volume
diffuse until 100% dry (ALL layers INCLUDING short ones )

Curly hair newbie vs. terrible routine


I’m 4 months postpartum and I’m curious about other curly-haired moms’ experiences.

How did your hair change after pregnancy?
When did things start feeling normal again?
Did your curl pattern or volume come back?
When did you notice new growth?
If you breastfed, did you notice recovery before or after weaning?

I’d love to hear what the timeline looked like for you.

**Routine:** Wash once a week. Shampoo with **Not Your Mother’s Naturals Tahitian Gardenia & Mango Butter Shampoo**, condition with **Not Your Mother’s Naturals Tahitian Gardenia & Mango Butter Conditioner**. Apply **AG Re:Coil Curl Activator** as a leave-in and **Not Your Mother’s Curl Talk Mousse** to soaking wet hair. Scrunch, plop briefly in a microfiber towel, then air dry. Sleep on a satin pillowcase and usually wear my hair up in a claw clip between wash days.

Curly moms: How did your hair change after having a baby?


I’m 30 and I’m scared I look 12

Routine: wash with head and shoulders. Condition with Tresemme Botanique. Brush conditioner through in shower. When out of the shower I apply gel and plop with a t shirt and air dry. When mostly dry I finish with a diffuser.  When sleeping I put it in a claw clip on top of my head and I refresh with a bottle of water with a bit of conditioner in it

I got a really nice curly cut and asked for bangs and now I’m full of regret. Is it just shock? Do they look okay?


Hi all! I have wavy hair with occasional ringlets. I’ve always thought this was 2B/2C hair. It’s just past shoulder length with some layers. Some parts of my hair curl directly from the scalp, other sections need about 2-3 inches before it gets any movement. It’s very silky and fine which is something I struggle with.

I typically brush out my hair and braid it so it has a softer wave but lately I’ve been wanting to embrace my curls. For the longest time, I hated the way my hair looked because I just didn’t feel pretty. Half of my hair wants to wave and the other half is hidden ringlets. My Mom has gorgeous curls (3A I believe) and though I know my pattern isn’t close to hers, I’ve always admired it.

I’m really looking to maximize the ringlets and keep the curls for as long as possible. Usually my curls fall flat about two seconds after I’ve scrunched them.

Here’s my routine as of now:

Redken All Soft (Shampoo + Conditioner)
Condition first, shampoo next, then condition a second time brushing upwards towards my roots

Rusk Thick Body and Texture Spray, applied to roots

AG Recoil on damp hair, pea size amount scrunching towards the scalp

Not Your Mother’s Beach Babe Mousse, dime size on damp hair, scrunched for volume

I prefer to air dry and do not use a diffuser. Diffusing my hair causes max amounts of frizz and does very little to help me hold the curl. If you all think this needs to change though, I’m open to your advice!

At night I use a claw clip to hold the hair up on the crown of my head. This usually helps me keep some volume and most of the curls.

Refresh product is Aussie 2nd day curl activator.

I appreciate any, and all, advice you are all willing to share. I’m just happy to finally embrace my waves/curls! ☺

Product/Routine Suggestions?


hi, for the past month my hair has not been able to hold my curl pattern, so I got a haircut (and a curly cut at a curly salon), which did not help. So I went to another salon and got a bonding treatment, which helped for a few days (avoided washing it for 4ish days). After I washed it my hair came out amazing, with full curls! a few days later I wash it again and my curl pattern is gone, my curls hardly hold and can’t last more than a day. I changed to the quidad moisture shampoo which was supposed to help, but it is not improving my hair. I have been using the bonding treatment from olaplex every few days and leaving it in about 30mins, which has helped only a tad. I have tried using a clarifying shampoo once/twice (don’t want to overdo it). But nothing I seem to be doing is helping and it’s causing me so much stress! I love my hair and pride myself in embracing my curls, but I can’t seem to get them back to normal. My routine consists of:
\- wash 2/3 times a week (i have 2c/3a curly waves) I workout almost daily, and clip it up with a claw clip to preserve it when it’s not a wash day. Shampoo is Quidad curl moisturizer and the conditioner is living proof curly hair , sometimes I switch off to the amika volume conditioner
\- i use the not your mother’s leave-in conditioner
\- followed by doux mousse
\- then i have been using strictly curl gel
\- before i used those i was using innersense volume gel and mousse (strong hold) which i felt was too strong for my texture so I switched it out to the doux
\- i diffuse my hair and use a heat protector (tres semme)
\- my hair has not been making a gel cast at all and it’s frizzy and not holding shape
(lmk if you want to see my curls when they are normal and good!!)
i really don’t know what to do, i spend time diffusing and just cry because it doesn’t look like my hair
 \- additionally I have tried to air dry it more and the result have bot improved :(

reviving curls


Every single time i do my curly hair routine it looks horrible. And ive always tried different products, and even let my hairdresser do it, and it still ends up looking like a train wreck.

My usual routine (regardless of products, tho the ones ive been using i will include) is that i use shampoo 2 (recently 3) times on my hair (for about a month or two been using cantu shea butter meant for naturall curls coils and waves)  detangle it and than catch it with a claw clip. Than while my hair was still wet ( sometimes id need to add some water if i waited too much) and i used to (without brushing through it (im sorry i recently started not doing that i know its bad😭) id apply gel (i think since the beguinning ive only ever used wellaflex men with power definition 6) and than  curl cream (which ive switched around a bit but for a while now its been Frizz ease dream curls) scrunched my hair to oblivion (i also applyed the products like this and pat the products into my hair while keeping my head upside down) and than diffusing  my hair upside down(air drying takes WAYYYYY too long and leaves my hair like a birds nest but diffusing also takes over an hour). Now i was also recently told that using gel before curl cream was a big no no so i switched the steps to those two. I also sleep with a bonnet, which tbh helped a bit. My idea of a refresh routine is just scrunch in some water and pray tho i very rarely do this. Oh and i usually wash my hair every 3 days or try to stretch it a bit.

My issue is that ive used multiple different products, tried finger coiling (fell out immediately, so i permanently stuck to scrunching), and while my end results may look "okay" i always HATE how they look down, like the back looks horrible, whatever tf is the top part doing????, the root area lays so weird whilst the tips of my hair are turning into spirals and the top section of my hair lays really odd and flat ish while the bottom one are spiraling away. Even when ive went out with my hair down people would comment saying wtf is up with your hair and that it looks better in my regular half up half down style. Ive had my hair down to my waist before and cut up to my shoulders, this isnt a length problem. But i always have the same problems. I usually just get around them doing a half up half down hair style but its genuenly so annoying to not be able to just wear your hair down and i hate it so much. Ive tried diffusing it with no product and it also looks horrible. It dries like its tangled and i always have wet frizz. I genuenly just want to be able to go out the house with my hair down without spending 3 bussiness days perfecting my curls, that even styled manage to look like perfect rental space for my neighbourhood pigeons.

Even when i had my hair routine done by a professional, who simply applied on curl cream and diffused it upside down (idk how she managed to get the sections so small, tbh it looked kinda cute?) It went and had the audacity to fall out after a short amount of time and look like a poofy mess hiding some curls by the end of the day. I think maybe using gel too mightove been a solution?

 I often lose a whole evening to hair care and still manage to have poor results and its genuenly made me feel less pretty and wish (on multiple occasions) that my hair was naturally straight.

I really hate my "curly" hair


People always ask me why I don’t wear my hair curly more but like not all my hair is curly and I straighten it to get everything to be one texture. Has anyone dealt with anything like this I’d love to embrace the curls but I don’t know how really when it’s like this. The hair by my neck, ears, and front are the curliest and then there are wavy and straight pieces. The longest pieces look the straightest. I just used the L’Oréal glycolic shampoo and Pantene moisture conditioner and then applied Pantene miracle spray as a detangler and ouai leave in conditioner on the ends for dryness and brushed my hair put it in a claw clip and went about my day and it got quite curly in the front. I don’t have a designated curly routine.

How do I have pin straight and curly hair on the same head???


Honestly, I'm not even 100% sure if I have curly hair. But my hair is often frizzy, and after I wash it or let it air dry there's always big curls for a short while without doing anything to curl them. And when I use a claw clip, my hair stays curly for an hour or two. However, every time I use my conditioner, it softens my hair or something and my hair gets weighed down and looses the curls. Moreover, if I try scrunching my hair, it turns all mussy and frizzy and I look like a hobo.

 My hair has been through quite a bit, the most damaging thing I can think of is probably ionic hair straightening / japanese hair straightening at a salon. Now, I want to try to get my hair's natural curls back, and I need tips.

 I have asian black hair, never dyed it, has been a few years straightened before. I don't have any special haircuts or layers, and it reaches down to my lower back in length.

For my routine, I don't use any hair products for curls or hair care. I currently use head and shoulders shampoo, and fino conditioner. I just blowdry my hair with medium heat, and maybe scrunch my hair a bit. I don't own a diffuser.

 If anyone has any idea if I have curly hair, any product recommendations, haircut recommendations, or any tips at all for this clueless beginner, please tell me! Thank you all!

Loose curls


i’m finally at a point where i’m consistently getting hair days i’m happy with. i know it may be a little more frizzy/undefined than some people’s taste but i prefer it that way!

routine:
1. wash every 3-4 ish days. before i wash, i brush out my hair well with a boar bristle brush to distribute the oils and stuff
2. wash with bumble&bumble invisible oil shampoo
3. every few washes, i do a second wash with christopher robin salt scrub
4. bumble&bumble invisible oil conditioner, a quarter-ish amount primarily on mids and ends, but a bit near the top too. i brush it thru with my denman brush (even rows removed). leave it in while i wash my face and body
5. wash out conditioner. on soaking wet hair i use a nickel amount of shea moisture curl enhancing smoothie. then brush it thru with denman brush again
6. flip my hair a bit to loosen it from my scalp and finger comb the top section up. then i scrunch a bit with my hands and then a towel. i finger curl my bangs and then leave my hair be for a while
7. diffuse when hair is 80% dry, holding hair to each side and upside down. i put extra emphasis on the back of my hair bc it’s less curly

i don’t do anything special while i sleep or refresh between wash days, i just pin it half back with a mini claw clip if i’m not happy with the top layers.

day 2 hair, even!


So I recently started my journey into embracing my natural hair texture and I’m struggling to figure out what type of curl pattern I have and what products to use.
My routine:
I wash every other day with Mielle rosemary shampoo and conditioner and occasionally use the Trader Joe’s branded hair mask. Once done showering I will spray in the Trader Joe’s leave in conditioner and brush it out with my denman brush. I’ll then spray a texturizing sea salt spray (unsure on brand because I got it from the dollar store but I believe it’s called amber glow). Once that is done I’ll put two pumps of doux crazy sexy curl honey setting foam in my hands and take it through each side of my head (4 pumps total). I’ll then scrunch out as much water as I can with my hands and finish it up with scrunching out the remaining water with a 100% cotton shirt and use a claw clip to clip up my roots. Then leave my hair alone to air dry. If it feels crunchy after I’ll use the mielle rosemary hair oil to scrunch it out. For sleeping I use a satin pillowcase and I do have a bonnet but I tend to rip it off in the middle of the night as I’m sleeping.

I feel like I have really fine hair so gels and creams have seemed to weigh down my hair and make it look really greasy. I do struggle with frizz and I am awful at diffusing my hair. In the past Pacifica pineapple curl cream worked really well but I think that they changed the formula because it just feels too heavy now :(

Any advice is greatly appreciated and the image I included is with my hair immediately after finishing my routine as I let it air dry. Thanks!

Just starting my curly journey


So I'm very new to taking care of my natural hair and I don't really use any special products yet, but this is my wash routine (also these are indian products as it's where I live so you might not be familiar with these products)

Anti- dandruff Shampoo by Pilgrim (2 rounds of shampooing)

Dryness Care Conditioner by Dove (I leave it on for about 5 mins)

Damage repair rice water hair mask by Pilgrim

And i scrunch my hair while rinsing out the final hair mask.

First i scrunch dry my hair with an old cotton t shirt till I get as much as the excess water as I can out. Then i apply some coconut oil to the ends also bt scrunching. Usually from here I let it air dry.

I don't really do anything special whole sleeping, just a loose ponytail. In the morning I do a bit of a refresh. I don't really need it to look exactly the same bc i never wear my hair down to school (we aren't allowed to lol)  so I js wet the ends, scrunch with a t shirt again and let it dry. I only get it wet enough for it to be dry in abt 15-20mins. I would do either a low or mid ponytail to school or a half up with a claw clip.

All of this info provided so far was because I needed to add it to the post according to the rules haha

Here's my main concern: whenever I'm at home, i don't really like to have my hair down. And since I have layers, even a loose ponytail means face framing pieces are out and it gets really overstimulating. So how do y'all tie your hair up to keep it out of your face without tyinging the pattern?

PS: forgot to mention earlier but my hair usually varies from 2B-3A

Just starting to take care of my natural hair- how do i put it up when I'm at home without ruining the pattern?


TLDR: What's my hair type??? Any products or routines that would work better for my frizz?

\*The first photo is with product while it's air drying. The second is what it typically looks like once dry. The third is another way it dries sometimes. The fourth is day two after being refreshed, still a little damp, which somehow looks the best. I don't have many pictures of my hair where it isn't straightened!!\*

Hi all!! I've been looking into how I can improve my curls, and I'm super overwhelmed!! Maybe someone with a similar hair type to mine can offer advice?! For context, I don't really know my curl type - I would guess somewhere from 2C to 3a, but I can't tell. I feel like it depends on the day at this point lol! I have fine to normal hair, but a lot of it. I struggle with frizz, and I'm trying to aim for definition and moisturization with new products. I've probably also damaged my hair with heat because I straighten/blow it out pretty often, and I recently got bangs, which has brought more heat into my routine.

So, I'm looking to reduce frizz and enhance definition. I'm willing to completely change up my products because I've just been kind of doing whatever lol. Any clarity on what my hair type looks like to you, or which products you think I'd benefit from, would be greatly appreciated!!

Right now, my routine is as follows:

\- Only wash my hair 2-3 times per week

\- Always double shampoo, but once a week, I do a clarifying shampoo (Kristen Ess Deep Clean Clarifying Shampoo)

\- Shampoo and conditioner: Dove Daily Moisture set

\- After the shower, I use Kristen Ess weightless shine leave-in conditioner spray (more focused on the top of my head), Odele leave-in conditioner (more focused on the mids and ends), then I switch between the Odele air-dry styler and flex hair gel depending on the day. Either way, I just use like 2 quarter-sized amounts on both sides because my hair is so long. I just comb it in with my hands, then brush it with a bounce-curl-style brush. Then I just very loosely scrunch it because if I scrunch it too much, it dries frizzy.

\- Once it dries, I don't touch it.

\- My curls often look better after I refresh them with water, but then they're horrible again once they dry, so idk what that means lol

\-Usually, I leave my hair in a tiny claw clip while I sleep or a loose bun. I use a bonnet when I remember to. But I never sleep with my hair down unless it's straightened or I know I'm washing it in the morning.

Tips for long idk what type of curly/wavy hair!!


my hair has really loose spirals some days and really tight ones other days

My routine bc its required:

1. I use Maria Nila Healing shampoo and conditioner for something the rules don’t even let me mention
2.  I use a leave in conditioner while my hair is still wet, scrunching it in, it’s something from Keratase, I can’t remember the exact name, I also scrunch in mousse and detangler in my hair after every shower.
3. I air dry my hair because I don’t own a hair dryer or diffuser.
4. I have a silk pillowcase, I put a claw clip on top of my hair for volume
5. I have to wash my hair twice a week to maintain the way my hair looks in the first couple photos where I’m in the pink shirt

Ok so a friend of mine told me I don’t have curly hair and I’m wondering if they’re right. Opinions?


okay so for context my parents both have straufht hair but i was somehow born with curly hair. i’m the only one in my immediate family who has it and i am.. lowkey really bad at taking care of it. i’ve done a lor of research jn rhe past year for my hair but i still can’t fully tame it. my hair is super thick and 3a if it helps. Also i don’t really want defined hair. I like my hair to be soft and natural and a little messy. Also very hydrated.

ok heres my routine:

i use the pink maui shampoo and conditioner

curlsmith lightweight air dry dream

ouidad featherlight styling cream

then i use that bouncecurl brush thing

thenbounce curl creme gel

then i let it air dry (i’m too lazy to diffuse + i lost it while moving)

I  havenr done any dyes or treatments to my hair and also don’t sleep with anything protecting my hair and usually wake up to frizzy hair (but i’m getting a bonnet soon!) also i dont do a refresh routine.

this routine works pretty well for my hair. the back of my hair somehow usually ends up frizzy though but i think it’s because it needs more product then the rest of my hair cause it’s more curly and because i always manage to Miss a small chunk of my hair.

okay i hope that can give you an idea of my hair. ask me any questions for anything i missed. here are the things i need help with, tho:

1) how do i put up my hair? i mean this may sound like a dumb question but every time i put my hair up it slowly falls down throughout the day and just doesn’t look good. I want to actually have like a mid ponytail, not a low one. So are there any methods to achieve this?

2) what are some hair tie/scrunchie/claw clip recommendations? i need some hair ties/scrunchies that are really flexible and stretchy and smooth on my hair. all of the hair ties i’ve ever used get stuck in my hair and make it kinda tangled. i’m looking for satin ones that actually feel like it’s just holding my hair up, not tangling it if that makes sense.

3) how do i make my hair stop going like \\ this from this side. Like at my root my hair is kinda flat but the farther it gets fork my scalp the bigger it gets. i can only see it when looking at my hair from the side. I dont want my hair to be like \\ i want it to be like  / if u know what i mean. like to be bigger at the roots then the bottom

4) hiw do i get my roots to be curlier? They’re iinda flat but i think if’s because i tie my hair up ALL THE TIME and i do it kinda tight.

5) this may be the dumbest question by far but how do i see how my hair looks from the back? i literally never learned how to do this. I do like set my phone down and record a 360 from my hair but is ther a quicker way to do it? is that how all girls do it?? is there like a mirror method i can do quickly? i usually only see how i look from one angle and then i go outside looking like a mess because i dont notice thw back of my hair looking bad.

6) what are some necessities for my hair? the products i named are really the only curly products i use for my hair. are there any other products i missed out on? And please give some reccomendations of those products.

7) what haircut should i get? as of now my hair is just blunt and i didn’t do anything with it. It’s really long and when wet it goes down to my hips. I want my hair to frame my face better and also to fix that problem i had in #3 so what do i ask for? i asked for layers once and the stylist told my it would make my hair even bigger. so what curly cut do i ask for? I really wnat my hair to be more shaped instead of blunt.

i think that’s all. thank you for reading all of this! and if u have any critiques on my haircare routine please tell me and tell me how to fix them! thank you again.

I need a lot of hair advice! (kinda long)


Hi so I had 1a hair throughout my life until I shaved my head when I was 15. My hair pattern has changed significantly since then and I'm trying to learn more about it. I don't know what hair type mine falls under but my hair is incredibly fine but dense. I have waves and curls mixed throughout.

Routine:

I take a shower and use Maui lightweight hydration for shampoo and conditioner. I scrunch my hair as I'm rinsing out conditioner. I put it in a claw clip for when I get out.

Depending on how lazy I am I either section my hair and rewet it or just rewet it. I go in with Shea moisture daily leave-in treatment all over my hair, mainly focusing on the ends. Then I go in with my curl creme, I use pillow soft curls, and evenly distribute throughout my hair, again focusing on the ends. Then I go in with a mousse, fructis curl mousse, for my roots and basically scrunch in the excess. I then use gel ,curly jelly, and scrunch. My hair is wet throughout this entire process, I will spray more water on when needed. Then I usually flip my head over and start hover diffusing my roots then move to cup diffusing until my hair is dry. Last step I go in with oil to break the cast. I use a random oil I found years ago.

Usually the end result looks good structure wise, but I'm struggling a lot with frizziness and it looking stringy. Plz help I have little to no idea of what Im doing.

Cant solve stringy hair final


Routine

 1. obx coconut miracle oil conditioner and shampoo,

  2. cake mousee and not your mothers gel.

3. I diffuse it and then sleep with it in a bun!

4. Sometimes ill put it in a bonnet too? I use a little claw clip to keep volume

ANYWAYS! I have always been obsessed with hair care, just wanted my hair to be long, shiny and PERFECT! I kinda always knew I probably had curls but, I didn't want to do that and tried to force it into being straight. (not a good idea i was always so stressed about how frizzy my hair was/felt)
Anyways I had a friend who was like "girl u need to do something about this you definitely have curly hair" because she would do my hair for me a lot and I was like oh well why not!
So i asked my friends who have curly hair what they do and I started just with not your mothers curl cream, then I added the she moisture mousse and gel. I didnt really like the shea moisture mousse or the not your mothers curl cream as I felt it weighed down my hair, so I started using this "cake mousse" and just the gel
ANYWAYS over the past several months I have noticed so much progress and just wanted to share because i just wanted to quit when I first started. I didnt think itd be worth all the effort lol

Hair progress!!!


okay, so first and second pictures, I used this green leave in conditioner, Aussie miracle curls anti frizz cream, and Aussie mousse. the last picture, I used the same green leave in conditioner, not your mothers anti frizz cream (any curl type), not your mothers gel (3A-3C), and not your mothers mousse (3A-3C) with a little diffusing.

 for the first two pictures, I would wet and brush my hair every day which I know isn’t healthy, but that was back then. For the 3rd picture, (this one is more recent) I have been styling my hair every 3 days, 1st day being wash day and then the two other days with minimal wetting and then in a claw clip or something.

I wash my hair twice with shampoo and then I condition it and brush it in the shower, then I get out and apply green leave in conditioner and brush it again, then I finger rake anti frizz cream through my hair, scrunch in gel, and then scrunch in mousse. Then I wait 10 minutes before I do some light diffusing (I can never dry it completely though bc my hair takes 30 years to dry, it’s pretty thick and I have a lot of hair). I have been putting my hair in loose buns and then at night I put a bonnet on, though it falls off in the middle of the night (no matter how I tie it) so idk what to do about that.

anyways, I tried using Aussie anti frizz cream and mousse instead of the Not Your Mother’s anti frizz cream and mousse (same routine otherwise), but my hair became super poofy, I think it might’ve been because I was lying down on my hair while it was still pretty wet and not 100% dry? my main issue is that Aussie miracle curls gives me good curls that are pretty bouncy, but I’m scared it’s drying out my curls and causing them to frizz. I would use the Not Your Mother’s products bc I like the shine and almost no frizz that it gives my hair, but I swear my curls just become waves with it. please help

Hi, never posted here, but I need help pls


Hello, I know yall probably get a lot of posts like this but my sister with curly hair thinks I have curly hair. I think based on observations not doing anything to extenuate curl that my hair may be mixed or wavy. I work a very demanding job and haven’t gathered the will to put effort into the curly girl routine. I wash my hair every two weeks and switch my hair from a claw clip at the base of my head for work to the top of my head at night. Is this hair movement that I’m seeing just from my routine with the claw clips or do yall think I have some hair texture? This is my hair oily at the end of its cycle. I currently use Pantene and put jojoba oil on my ends every couple days for context. I also really like to put fermented rice water on my roots. I’m a tired blue collar and don’t take care of my hair but I think the oil and rice water have saved me.

Am I imagining curls?


This is an update after establishing a routine with new products and styling method i really like. Im just wondering if I am missing an extra step or an extra product. I love how my curls are coming out but not the friz after it dries.

Products used:

\-BONNET QUEEN Silk Bonnet for Sleeping Women Satin Bonnet Night Sleep Cap Wrap for Curly Hair with Adjustable Tie Band, Single Layer, Champagne (used at night or after styling)

\-Nazca Curls Jar 2-in-1 Hair Cream, the ultimate care for curly hair types 3A, 3B, and 3C (used as a leave in styling cream)

\-Maui Moisture Lightweight Hydration + Hibiscus Water Conditioner, Nourishing Aloe Vera Conditioner Softens & Quenches Hair, Vegan & Silicone-Free (main conditioner)

\-Garnier Fructis Pure Clean Purifying Shampoo, Silicone-Free (main shampoo)

\-Microfiber Hair Towels - 40 x 20 inches Super Soft, Fast Drying Turbans for Long, Thick, Curly Hair - Anti Frizz Wrap with Elastic Strap

\-Maui Moisture Scalp Care Clarifying Shampoo, Apple Cider Vinegar Curly Hair Shampoo Moisturizes & Removes Scalp Build-Up, Sulfate-Free Surfactants (Weekly shampoo)

\-AINA Hair Dryer with Diffuser, Blow Dryer for Women | Advanced Ionic Technology, Ceramic Coating | Cold Shot Features Turbo Heat for Fast Drying and Shine 110V/ALCI

\-9 Hair Volume Clip for Styling,Root Claw Clips for Women Curly Thick Hair, Root Liffter for Curl Hair

\-Curly Hair Brush,Curl Defining Brush for Effortlessly Defined Curls & Waves,Vented Hair Brush for Wet & Dry Hair,Women and Men,Reduces Frizz

Routine for above pic:

Weekly shampooed, conditioner sit while I washed my body then rinsed.

Used towel to dry damp then brushed my hair wet.

Added in the Nazca Curls scooping some in the center of my palm and rubbing it all over my hands like sanitizer then raking it through my hair from top to bottom. Then using my brush again to full it throughout my hair.

I wash my hands to get the excess product off my hands. Then twirl my hair from bangs to ends and pin it up using Bobby pins on opposite sides.

Then I put on a bonnet to sleep.

I woke up and not all my hair was dry so after I brushed my teeth and flossed I took out the Bobby pins. Then let my hair sit like that a few hours.

Then slowly started to separate my hair as it got dry throughout the day. Its fully dry now. Usually my curls show up best when its short but this is the best they have looked when its been long. Just not a fan of the Frizz.  Usually when I dont deal with my hair I through it up using the clips given above. Only clips that can handle how thick my hair is and I have an undercut. Usually i air dry but got a hair dryer diffuser for when I feel a bit lazy. I air dried this time. Thoughts on what to do about the Frizz? My routine? Hair porosity? Would like to know hair type i think im 2c/3a, porosity tests what are some good methods? Open discussion is welcomed.

Etc information for consideration: biracial (half mex/half white), fried high school hair, 29 years old

Hair still frizzy after routine


To my thick curly hair gang! I need a claw clip where the hing won't give out because my hair is too thick! These just broke on me back to back in under a minute. So many "jumbo claw clips" are just long but have no depth! So does anyone have one that works well and has actual depth not length? Idk how relevant routine is, this is more about accessories

In need of claw clips!


I (33) am trying to embrace the grey/white! However, this patch on top seem to be particularly random in their behavior. Relative to the rest of my hair, including longer grey/white strands (which I keep shoulder length and wear up off my face in a braid, clip, or pony 95% of the time), these don't want to clump and are super noticeable.

Part of me wants to take the opportunity to go platinum blonde and blend the white in. I've never bleached it, just tried a few box dyes during lockdown.

Routine:

\- water hardness is very high (have been experimenting with diluted Borax rinses the past few months to remove mineral buildup)

\- wash every 2-3 days with Shea Moisture Low Porosity Weightless Hydrating Shampoo

\- condition + detangle with Wet Brush or wide tooth comb every 1-2 days with whatever I have around (currently Redken all soft mega curls)

\- style wet hair only by brushing through curl gel (i.e. NYM curl talk or Dippity-Doo curl gelee) and air drying with claw clip holding top 1/2 up.

\- sleep with bonnet/silk scrunchie in pineapple

Interested to hear from other grey/white haired curly folks!

Wild grey advice? I wanna keep my low maintenance routine


 Hi,

I feel like my hair makes me look a bit messy and ugly. I would appreciate advice on how to reduce frizz.

My routine is

Double shampoo

Capasal Therapeutic Shampoo

Creightons Professional Cleanse & Refresh Shampoo 500ml

Hair mask

L'Oreal Elvive Dream Lengths Long Hair Mask for Long Damaged Hair 300ml

Regular conditioner

Astonish Tropical Conditioner with Argan Oil, 375ml

(detangle in shower with tangle teezer here.)

Leave in Conditioner

Kinky-Curly Natural Leave-In Detangler (Knot Today) 8 Ounces (236 Ml)

Gel

Alberto Balsam Ultra Strong Gel, 200 ml

I do this maybe at least twice per week but can be more if I go out and get sweaty - public transport things ☹

Also:

I lift my hair up and protect it with a claw clip because otherwise my hair gets loose and frizzy much faster and if it's in that state it's super dry.

My hair takes several minutes to fully get wet, and when I leave the shower with no product at all on it takes half an hour to dry. With product it takes a few hours.

I don't diffuse because I don't like the feeling. However, I have noticed it doesn't make a difference for me either way.

Would appreciate advice re: frizz, and making my hair look pretty.


Routine:

Once a week hair washing using innersense harmony hair bath for the first shampoo, innersense scalp renew hair bath on second shampoo.

Then innersense color radiance conditioner, leave it in 5 mins, detangle and rinse.

Then after showering I section hair into 6 sections and distribute innersense sweet spirit leave in conditioner liberally, and innersence I create volume volumeizing lotion. Some sections I take through with fingers, the top and front sections I use a styling brush. I plop with a T-shirt for 40 mins, then switch to a more dry T-shirt and add silk bonnet on top of I am sleeping. Otherwise I air dry after first tshirt.

No heat, no dye, no high tension styles. Mostly I use a French pin or claw clip to get hair out of face. I wear down on day one and two, the rest of the time I have it up in a protective bun. I add jojoba oil to my ends sometimes if they are dry, and I dust the ends myself. I sit and do search and destroy method a few times a month.

Trying to find the balance of definition and volume!


always had curly hair... never wants to stay curled and i have no idea what to do. It makes me feel so gross!

Routine:

1.
Shampoo: "curl rhythm science of curls deep moisturizing curl shampoo" I double shampoo it once a week

Conditioner: "pro silk salon essential oil infused moisturizing conditioner" I use it every shower, i put everywhere but my roots

2.
I started using "original dippity\~do extra strong hold hair gel moisturizing formula" raking a little bit through my hair right after showering, then scrunching it in

3.
air dried, scrunching from time to time

4.
I don't use satin or silk pillows or bonnets

pics 1-3: after shower (ignore the rubber band... i was trying to do the thing of lifting the crown/back for more volume but didnt bave a claw clip)

pics 4-6: basically completely dry

pics 7-9: 3ish hours later

any advice helps! i really just want some consistent form and or volume at least :;) i'm also looking into getting a diffuser... everything is do expensive so it's difficult

how to properly take care of curly hair??


I gave up with my hair a few years ago and usually Dyson air wrap it once a week. The rest of the time it’s up in a claw clip.

This is what it looks like no-product and air dried. I’ve tried all the typical recommendations for mousse/curl cream/etc. I’ll say I tend to get scalp build up quickly and itchy, so try to avoid heavy product. I also don’t like how mousse makes my hair feel sticky.

Does anyone with similar hair who has product recommendations? I am open to what has worked for others. My other issue is I have to wake early for my job (resident doctor) and so night showering is the only way I can survive lol. I like how it looks freshly air dried as is here, but it becomes less curly looking and more scraggly within a few hours when out and about or if I sleep on it. Bonnets/other sleep maintenance methods tend to come off overnight as I am a finicky sleeper.

Routine: Shampoo and conditioner is whatever Costco has at the moment (I think I have dove rn). I cycle through random shampoo and conditioner. Doesn’t make a difference.

Recently tried and liked the pomade from Odell, but a little heavy for everyday use!

Product recommendations for air drying and night showering?


Curious how many of you use hair clips?

Claw clips, pins, etc.

I find myself struggling with existing hair clips and wanting something that mimics the grip of my hand if i pull my hair back at the back of my head. Regular claw clips are often weak or too bulky for what im after.

Would you be interested in a clip that was able to mimic your hand grip and strong enough to hold thick curly hair? Is this something anyone else struggles with?

Routine
Loreal conditioner and shampoo
Okay Batana hair butter
Herbal essences leave in
Mielle pomegranate and honey curl smoothie

Hair clips and accessories


i have been trying to find a routine that works for my hair for YEARS and i think i finally found something that works. i have wavy, 2B/C, low porosity, fine hair and finding something that dosent weigh my hair down or make it look greasy has been nearly impossible. last night, i was at walmart with my sister, and after a very drunk hair cut a few months ago, i havent really tried styling my hair and ive mostly been wearing it up. but i saw a product and i figured I’d try it cause why not! anyways, i used it and WOW. its perfect. it dosent make my hair look greasy, or weigh it down, or anything else and i dont think my hair has ever looked like this. the TRESemmé Bouncy Curls Cream Jelly +peptide blend 2/5 is what i used and its amazing, ill attach a picture of my hair, the bottle i used, and my routine

ROUTINE:
\- First I double cleanse with
   1. Nizoral Scalp Psoriasi shampoo/conditioner
   2. Kristen Ess Deep clean clarifying shampoo
\- Then I condition with
   \- Suave Tropical Coconut Nourishing Conditioner
\- I put my hair in a claw clip and finish my shower
\- Then i put my hair in one of those hair wrap thingys made of microfiber cloth
\- Comb my hair with a wide tooth comb
\- Then i add one quarter size amount of the TRESemmé stuff to each half of my hair w/ prayer hands from about 3 inches away from my root to the ends of my hair
 \- Then i use this brush (im not sure what its called so ill insert a picture here) and comb through everything in sections to try and define them a little bit more
\- then i scrunch out the excess with the microfiber hair wrap and finger curl until i like where everythings sitting
\- then on high heat and medium speed i hover dry my hair with a blow dryer until it feels a little crispy
\- after a few hours i washed my hands and put lotion on and then scrunched out the gel cast(i sat around for like 3-5 hours cause i was studying but im sure just waiting til its dry is fine)
\- and then were done!

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ill have to update in the morning to see how they held up, cause thats usually their downfall, but im hopeful as this is the best theyve ever looked

note: please ignore my haircut, i know its horrendous. im getting it cut once i move out of my dorm! any tips are greatly appreciated!!!

i finally found something that works for my hair


Particularly around volume at my roots? Whenever my hair is in front of my face (like photo 4) I feel like it looks too wide on the sides and flat on top :/

I don’t rlly want to get a curly cut cause I’m worried it’ll look funky when I don’t wear it curly + I’m trying to grow it out!

Routine:

0) take my iron tablets so my hair doesn’t fall out 💪

1) L’Oréal Elvive Hyaluron Pump Shampoo

2) L’Oréal Elvive Hyaluron Pump Conditioner

3) Scrunch out a bit of water with cotton shirt

4) Umberto giannini mousse

5) Umberto giannini Gel

6) Use claw clip at roots and also tuck hair behind ears ( I find it helps frame my face better once dry)

7) hover and cup diffuse focusing on roots for like 2 minutes

8) Take claw clip out then flip hair upside down and diffuse until dry. Med heat med speed the whole time

Washed it in the morning, this is it 10hrs later after a full day of uni. I just plop my hair in a pineapple on my head to sleep. I don’t refresh cause I’m lazy !

2 year progress! is there anything else I can do to improve?


No matter what hair clips I use (claw clip, bannan clip, scrunchie) it always causes my curls to flatten? I have somewhat 3A/2b so they never really kink back up without product. How do I put my hair up during the gym (or another hair up activity) and have it curl back up when I put it down????

Hair care routine:

Wash & conditioner w/kerastase curlmanifesto line every other day

Curl cream is kerastase curl manifesto

Leave In conditioner (ocasional) is keraste milk(?) leave in

Mousse is RnCO curl foam (the rodeo one)

Gel is Ouidad humidity gel (the red one)

I always air dry and I re wet & style my hair everyday (pls don’t comment anything about that part, it’s wya works for me. I can’t not wet it) I wear a bonnet to bed

Here are some photos of my hair for example

Hair flattening ☹☹


this is the only pic where you can fully see my hair, but my hair genuinely doesn’t last more than 10 hours outside without looking crazy! it tangles so easily, and some roots just never retain water + my hair gets matted in seconds even though i’ve chopped off so much of it! :( here’s my full routine

DRYLAND / OFFSEASON

I detangle before I shower with a hair mask + tangle teezer Pattern shampoo + conditioner, clarifying shampoo once a week (usually Ouai or a random brand), Olaplex hair mask, Trader Joe’s spray leave in, Pattern curl cream, The Doux mousse, Wetline Extreme gel, style w/ Unbrush Curl brush, use Moroccanoil hairspray for an extra cast, plop w/ satin headscarf

SWIM SEASON

Shea Moisture shampoo + conditioner once daily, but i don’t rinse the conditioner out, Trader Joe’s leave-in, Wetline Extreme gel, pull into a claw clip, a single braid, or a braided bun! I slick my hair back with a boar bristle brush while it’s wet!

i don’t refresh my curls because i feel like they turn out so ugly when i do, and i wear a bonnet whenever i can, but my hair tangles and looks so gross all the time! this pic was day one hair, and it looked okay a day after!

my curls get so dry, dull, and ugly after day one! (swimmer + polo player)


I recently got thin bangs and I was wondering how I will wear my bonnet at night without ruining them.

I have tried:

* clipping them to the sides with Bobby pins
* leaving my bangs inside without doing anything in particule
* leaving my bangs out
* clipping them to the top with claw clip

Nothing seems to be working and my bangs only last 2 days before becoming very frizzy and not looking good.

Any suggestions?

*I normally use curl cream, mousse, and gel for my curl routine and let it air dry.*

Curly Bangs in bonnet


A year and a half ago he had a set of clippers to his head and I cried so bad that I convinced him to get a trim instead. It started growing so beautifully that he decided to keep it! The world almost missed out on this beauty!!!

He got his momma's good hair genes- very thick, heavy brown hair with natural highlights and lowlights!

His hair routine:

\-Daily wash with Tresemme daily moisture shampoo, massaged into scalp then through the ends, one wash

\-Every other day he adds the Tresemme Rich Moisture conditioner, massaged into scalp then through the ends, one wash

\-Hair is brushed in the shower with the crave naturals glide thru detangling hair brush

\-Hair is towel dried with a normal towel, a bit of vigorous rubbing, then left to air dry fully.

\-3x a week he uses John Freida Frizz Ease Daily nourishment leave-in conditioner after the towel dry, warmed in hands, massaged into scalp and lightly run through the ends with fingers

\-He wears his hair in 4 styles, half up in a baseball cap, low ponytail, clipped back with large claw clip, pushed back in headband with teeth.

\-No hair protection for sleep, but always wears a baseball cap when outside. He sleeps on one of those Purple pillows in a soft pillowcase

He washes it daily as his oil buildup causes his scalp to itch if he goes more than a day without washing. His hair could be less frizzy but it's very porous and doesn't hold moisture for more than 30 minutes out of the shower. In addition, he prefers low maintenance styling as he works outside in the Florida sun, so the top of his hair is covered by a cap and the bottom gets sun-bleached.

Husband has been growing his hair for a year and a half, it's so beautiful! 😍


My hair is flatter in the middle section of my hair from parting it.. does anyone have advice on how to remove that? Some parts of my hair have lil cute tighter curls and I want that on the rest of my hair soo bad, I just don’t know how to train it like that. Also, is this considered 2C hair?

Routine:

I wash my hair every 2-3 days. My scalp gets itchy when I go longer with that. I think it’s because when I sweat from the gym I get kinda itchy in general, so even if I rinse out my hair in the shower my scalp is still itchy.

Shampoo and conditioner: AG hair curly line

Leave in: bounce curl moisture balance

Curl cream: miss Jessie’s pillow soft curls

I detangle in the shower with a wide tooth comb or my fingers. Out of the shower I put my leave in and use the denman brush to spread out the product. I put the curl cream in my hair, I section it(half up half down cause I’m kinda lazy lol) then I use the bounce curl define brush and scrunch in some more curl cream. Honestly I usually only use hair oil before my I shower or if I use gel in my routine to scrunch the cast out. I don’t love using gel or mousse though cause I hate the feeling of crunchy hair, so I normally skip that. I have a diffuser but I don’t use it often, I prefer to let it air dry unless I am in a rush and have to go somewhere.

When I sleep, I put it in a loose bun and secure it with a claw clip horizontally on my head kinda like a crown. I use a silk pillow case and I use a silk bonnet sometimes.

When I refresh my hair I either just fully rinse it in my shower then follow my routine as usually minus the leave in or I use water in a spray bottle and follow it up with curl cream and scrunch.

Curl training?


Hello curly girlies/guys. I'm a beginner with this so I wanted to share my story. I'm also excited to join this forum so I can read your stories + product recommendations/methods etc because I still have a ways to go but doing much better so far ❤ So, here's my story, current routine and products I've been using.

Growing up, my hair was frizzy and I didn't know what to do so I straightened it and tried using hair oils but was so frustrated that I eventually just kept it up in a high bun for years, rarely letting it down. I thought it was straight but, looking back, it's always curled right out of the shower or pool. I would just brush it out and fight with it to get it to a "normal non-frizzy straight".

Literally did not know that meant it was curly lol.

Or wavy? I don't know, please let me know if you think it's curly or wavy because I have not even figured out my hair type yet since it wants to act half straight sometimes but that might be due to decades of mishandling it? What does it look like to you?

At age 30-ish I started suspecting that it was wavy/curly but was too stressed to inspect further or even care lol. In the last 2 years though I started actually researching and last Summer I committed to begin trying to heal it/experiment starting out slow.

The first curl cream I've tried is 4u by Tia cream. My hair was so dry/damaged that I got it cut pretty short and started trying to wear it down more or use a low bun/small claw clip. I've tried different shampoos + conditioners. Mane N Tail left my scalp super dry. Now I use Hairitage and sometimes 4u by Tia clarifying. My scalp is still dry though and not sure if it's the products or the hard water but figured I'd use these up before trying another type.

I've been washing my hair only once a week for 2 years because before when I would wash it 3-4x a week, it was falling out in clumps all throughout my 20s. But that doesn't happen now. I had a hairstylist tell me that my hair isn't thin, I have a lot of "fine" hair. But honestly that's just what I was told. I still struggle to understand any of this lol.

I mostly just air dry because I don't have a diffuser yet. I've started to find myself reverting back to the high bun lately out of comfort because my hair is so light that a small breeze makes me to have a nice portion of my hair for an unexpected and undesired snack 😂 And it's WINDY here in WA state!! Blehhh...

My hair seems to be really wanting lightweight products because as you can see from that day 2 current picture, it completely straightened out. It rarely goes that straight on it's own, usually a mix of waves/straight pieces so I'm thinking the curl cream is too heavy or maybe I'm using too much. I can say that it's definitely working in the moisturizing sense.

I don't use gel or mousse yet because I don't know how to and starting everything all at once feels overwhelming plus can't really afford to right now. Just little things at a time and make it stretch. I tried using a bonnet to sleep in but it keeps falling off in the middle of the night.

Anyways, that's my 9-10 month slow beginnings routine/products and former history. I want to try a hot oil treatment but not sure how to approach that ond yet either. Anyways, thanks for reading and any comments, thoughts, suggestions, product recommendations (for low budget) are truly appreciated 🥰

For over 30 years, I did not know that my hair was wavy/curly ~ Hair Journey (Beginner)


**TL;DR - My question:** does anyone else get their long hair cut with short layers at the back and crown and no layers around the face, to encourage curl at the crown?
Want I'm wanting is basically a curly cut at the crown and at the ends of my hair, but that just sounds so weird and wrong.

..Surely I can't be the only one..?

I have fine 2B/2C curls and am growing it out, it's currently 1/3 down my back, and I have a lot of hair.

I haven't gone for a full curly cut as I don't want any layers around my face (this is so I can tie it all up off my face without using bobby pins - I really hate layers around my face). I have a side fringe which I like, it clumps easily and doesn't cause any issues.

I have deep waves at my crown which can be seen underneath my top layers of hair - and I don't like how this looks. I'm wanting to encourage the curl at my crown while having no layers around my face.

**The ways I routinely wear my har:**

**If wearing up** \- I scoop it all up into a claw clip leaving the fringe out, or all into a high bun (hence not wanting face-framing layers as I don't want to use bobby pins to pin back stray hairs too short to reach the claw clip or bun)

**If wearing hair down** \- I use baby claw clips/big butterfly clips and clip back the front sections into a 'half-up' style, or wear half-up space buns or one half-up bun to blend or hide differences in curl pattern.

**So my question is -** does anyone here get their haircut to encourage curl at the root while having no face-framing layers? If so, what do you ask for, and can you share any pictures or examples of it?

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My routine:

Shampoo and condition 2x per week using very clean and natural products with no nasties.

Night: I wear something like a hair bonnet, I loop all the hair into a low bun inside the sleeping hat, which encourages the nice clumping

Styling: Always hair dry. I use water to manipulate/blend curls mid-week before wash day if needed. I sometimes use a curl jelly or creme but often do best with little or no product. From second day post wash I usually brush all my curls and the health of the hair gives volume and shine with no frizz, and my curls around bottom of hair clump naturally into curls that naturally look like I've used a curling iron at the ends. **The issue is, at the crown I have the big waves poking through the layers, and I want to have more layers cut at the crown** so when I brush it out it naturally clumps into actual curls like the rest of my hair.

**Does anyone get this hairstyle? And does it have a name?** Want I'm wanting is basically a curly cut at the crown and at the ends of my hair but that just sounds so weird and wrong.

Need help identifying haircut name/wanting advice from others with same issue


This half up hairstyle is my go-to any time I am having a hair day that can best be described as "Not good enough to wear down, but throwing it in a ponytail would be a waste" (so pretty much every single day 2 after wash day, lol) I love it so much, but I need suggestions for other cute low effort styles!

Routine: On regular wash days, I use As I Am black castor oil shampoo and conditioner, use a curl defining brush to detangle, and scrunch in two pumps of Matrix a curl can dream light hold gel before pixie diffusing to mostly dry and scrunching in one pump of the Matrix a curl can dream lightweight oil once done to break any gel cast. This only lasts me like 3 or 4 days and that's with it up most of the time, but I have an active lifestyle so my hair gets put through the wringer constantly.

You can pry the claw clip off of my rotting corpse (Alternate Title: Please Suggest a New Hairstyle for Me)


I’ve struggled for years to have healthy looking curls..I’m in a dry climate with harsh water so the elements are really stacked against me. I just wanted to share what has worked based on my preferences to achieve this curl definition. This is how I like my hair to look, it blows in the wind and isn’t stiff or stuck in one place. I do not like the crunchy or wet look, nor do I like my hair to feel crunchy or hard to the touch.

Shampoo/Conditioner:

 —> Amika Hydrorush (Normal wash)

 —> Olaplex (Every other week)

 Tangle Teezer to detangle in the shower from ends to root.

Styling products are applied to wet hair with my hands and brushed through normally with my hands, I will use my tangle teezer if there are some knots.

Leave In:

 —>Miss Jessie’s Leave In Conditioner

   \*\*\*I like this one because it has a jelly consistency

 —> Redken Anti-Snap Spray

   \*\*\* Sprayed on the ends and in frizzy/problems areas

Creams:

Curlsmith Weightless Air Dry Cream

Curlsmith Hold Me Softly Style Balm

   \*\*\* I’ve used both of these together for at least 2 years

   and will never look back.

Diffuse for about 15 minutes low heat and low speed.

Depending on what look I’m going for, I’ll break the cast with the OGX Coconut Oil.

This will last me about 3 days, which works out because I work outside and need to wash my hair more often. Easy to put into a messy bun or claw clip if it starts to get frizzy.

I sleep with a pineapple ponytail and bonnet every night.

My biggest peeves are when I can smell the product in my hair throughout the day, or when I turn my head. For example, I felt that I could smell my hair when I used Mielle, Shea Moisture, and OUAI products. My routine products do not have an overpowering or sickening scent and I never feel like my hair is stinking up the area.

I just purchased the Amika Hydrorush Mask as well as the Soul food mask and have yet to fully implement these into my routine but I look forward trying them out.

I know this routine is on the pricier side, but I’ve been on this journey for over 10 years and drug store products weren’t doing it for me. A little goes a long way with all of these products and I typically buy the largest “value size” options and they will last me 6 months+.

Routine Fine Curls 3 C


It’s been about two months since I started my hair journey, and while 99% of the time my hair has a mind of its own, it is encouraging to see a little bit of progress. I’m curious to see what my hair will look like a year from now.

Left-2 months ago no clue what I’m doing.

Right-Today still not quite sure what I’m doing. 😅

My Routine

( I believe I have fine, high density, high porosity hair)

1. L’Oréal Paris Elvive Hyaluron plump shampoo + conditioner.  (I use  a wet brush and evenly distribute conditioner through hair and rinse out.)

2. Section back and front of hair with a claw clip, add Aussie Instant Freeze Gel + Instant Freeze Mousse to the back section first on wet hair, scrunch and repeat process to the top section. (I will add I literally just started incorporating gel into my routine after a couple failed attempts in the past. I was only using mousse for a while.)

3. Micro plop with a t-shirt, then plop my hair into the t-shirt for however long my little heart desires.

4. Hover diffuse for a couple minutes, then pixie diffuse till dry.

5. Scrunch out the cast with my hands. ( I don’t normally use any oil)

6. I do ACV washes about once a week, and my hair only seems to last 3 days max before having to be washed again.

If anyone has any recommendations please let me know! I’m still extremely new to all this. I literally had no clue what I was doing in the beginning. I treated my hair like it was straight for 33 years and wore it in a bun almost every single day because i hated my hair so much I didn’t want to deal with it. Every time I brushed my hair it would become poofy, and I didn’t understand why. I still obviously have a ton to learn. My biggest issue I  have been running into at the moment is getting the same amount of product in the back as I do the front. It seems no matter what I do the back looks slightly neglected. 🤷♀

Two months into my hair journey!


Hello, I have been on my wavy hair journey since the beginning of this year after seeing Tik Toks on asian wavy hair. I think that I have 2a/2b wavy hair, fine, medium density, very flat on top, can get poofy triangly on the bottom.

I am in need of advice on how to style, please help me improve on my routine so that I get more definition.

In shower I use Living Proof Perfect Hair Day shampoo and conditioner, then squeeze my hair out once or twice lightly then put up in a claw clip while I dry off body.

Then once dressed I will put my hair back down and put in a few sprays of Ouai leave in conditioner, then detangle with a wide tooth comb. At this point it is still dripping at the ends onto the floor. I will scrunch a little bit.

Then I will flip my head over and scrunch in about a golf ball size of Not your mother curl mousse and then the Not your mother gel about a nickel quarter ish amount. At this point the curls will look very nice and defined and I will microplop with a cotton t shirt.

Then I will stand upright again and here I will get all tangled up in the front as I try to gain my part again and I think I lose a lot of definition.

And then I will diffuse on cold air for a while and then air dry the rest of the way. My left side will always look more defined no matter what the right is always not as good, and my roots are always very flat.

Side note: (I have also tried to just do upright styling but I don't get as good definition especially in the back and on my right side)

My main goal is I am really just looking to keep that great definition I get at the start when I am upside down. What can I do? Is it because I am styling on too wet hair? Please advice

Needing Advice


my hair has been struggling this cold dry winter. super soft, frizzy, static-y and unable to hold a curl. today was like coming out of hibernation 😭

routine

shampoo: T Gel

conditioner: tresemme flawless curls

apply quarter sized amount of Not Your Mother's Curl Creme to damp full head, brush through.

section ( I probably do 3 plus the bangs?) and apply generous amounts of LA Looks ultra hold gel, styling with bounce curl brush.

diffuse for 5 minutes until you are over it/no longer dripping. pull front/top of head pieces into a claw clip to keep out of my face and create additional volume while it finishes drying

winter is over, and we're so back